Preface: I can’t get the videos to post here. Please see original for videos.
BP’s new insertion tube inside the leaking oil pipe – unfortunately – isn’t doing very much.
Specifically, the Miami Herald points out that – according to the Coast Guard – the spill is getting worse in spite of the insertion tube:
The massive Gulf of Mexico oil spill is growing despite British Petroleum’s effort to siphon some of the spewing crude from its ruptured deepwater well, the U.S. Coast Guard official leading the cleanup warned Tuesday.
BP doubled its estimate of the amount of crude being captured by a mile-long recovery tube to 2,000 barrels per day – but what percentage of the spill that is remains uncertain. BP has said it thinks that 5,000 barrels of crude a day are leaking from the well, but a video made public Tuesday after the tube was placed inside the broken pipe showed clouds of crude oil still billowing into the sea.
Another video provided the first public view of a second leak much nearer the runaway well’s failed blowout preventer spewing oil, too. A BP robot took that video on Saturday and Sunday.
The Coast Guard commandant, Adm. Thad Allen, said that despite the siphoning, the spilled oil is spreading and now stretches from western Louisiana to Florida’s Key West. The extent of the spill was straining even the substantial resources deployed for one of the worst ecological disasters in recent history, he said.
Kevin Grandia explains:
Two new videos have surface showing footage of the BP oil leak at the source 5,000 feet down at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.
These new video are important because they show footage (if the time stamp on the video of May 17th is correct) taken after the oil company responsible for stopping the leak – British Petroleum (BP) – had inserted a tube into the leaking pipe in an attempt to siphon off some of the oil and pump it up to an awaiting ship on the surface.
Looking at this video there remains serious question about the exact amount of oil that is actually flowing from the burst pipe as well as how much is being captured by the inserted siphon:
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Another video has also been released showing the leak from the riser that is described on US Senator Bill Nelson’s website as video footage of the plume “after the intervention” – you can clearly see in the video a large kink in the riser that is spewing oil. The first half of this video is marked May 15th – the day before the insertion tube was placed in the leaking pipe.
The video then switches (at about the 2 min. 30 sec. mark) to a close of shot of the leak time stamped the next day, May 16th after the insertion tube was put in place:
Compare this to similar footage posted last week:
Indeed, BP either doesn’t know or won’t tell how much oil is leaking. As the Miami Herald notes:
Under sharp questioning from Nelson and other lawmakers, Lamar McKay, the head of BP America, said the company was focused on sealing off the spill but couldn’t offer estimates of how much oil was flowing into the ocean.
And see this. BP has refused to let independent scientists inspect the site so that they could estimate the rate of the oil leak.
BP’s next plan is to try to seal the leak using heavy drilling fluids and then cement:
BP likely will try to shut down the well completely late this week using a technique called “top kill,” BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said at a news conference Monday.
The process involves pumping heavy drilling fluids through two 3-inch lines into the blowout preventer that sits on top of the Macondo wellhead a mile underwater. This would first restrict the flow of oil from the well, which then could be sealed permanently with cement.
For my other recent reporting on the Gulf oil spill, please see the following:
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I think it likely that BP, knowing that it faces only $75 million in liability for the spill, is dithering until the government decides to take over the work of actually closing down the well.
It appears that we’ve got a moral hazard problem in our oil industry, just as we do in our banking industry. So we must remove all traces of moral hazard from both industries before BP turns our coastal waters into a dead zone and Goldman drives our middle class into extinction. I suppose this is what disaster capitalism is all about with BP and Goldman, the two-headed vampire squid, being at the heart of it.
I haven’t researched, but who is the clown who came up with the idea of a $75 million liability cap? My hunch is that his first name begins with G, last name with B. And if so, they should plug the well with HIM.
Although it’s rather Onion-esque that the O administration gave Deepwater Horizon an award last year for their safety record….
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Between this and the coal mining tragedy there should be no doubt that these industries need new tougher regulations and to ultimately be phased out altogether in favor of non polluting sustainable forms of energy like wind and solar.
A big FU to any that would support continuing to endanger workers and pollute our planet for short term monetary gains.
As is usually the case when this sort of thing happens, they don’t need new regulations as much as the ones that currently exist be enforced and the departments overseeing them be properly resourced.
A blanket ban on taking jobs from the industry you’ve overseen is what is needed. Whether the lowliest copy boy or inspector or Senator.
I actually think that it was almost amusing to hear the reports that BP was “making progress”, with only 1/5th of the oil being captured. That would never be progress except if you believe that a half full glass is progress. CNBC and Bloomberg could report it as progress.
I find it hard to believe that BP does not have a good estimate of the flow — how can their engineers be working on siphoning or capping the well without that information?
BP would like to keep that information private, and it would seem that Mr. Obama agrees.
NPR’s program Morning Edition from 2 days ago had 3 scientists independently estimate the rate of flow using 3 different and accepted methods.
ALL came to estimates that were much higher than BP or the govermin. The 2 estimates that were based on the videos from BP were pretty close to each other.
Alas, most of the media seem hell bent in pushing the BP estimates.
Furthermore, there is a lot of grade-AAA bullshit going on in this saga.
1) For instance, does anyone know under what legal authority could BP prevent journalists to film oil spill on the beaches?
Because this is what they did to a CBS crew. BTW, the BP henchmen were aided by the Coast Guard!
Since when does a division of the US military work under the orders of a private corporation within the US territory in peace time?
2) Big Oil is very busy trying to stifle environmental legal work these days; of course, they are receiving a helpful hand from some politicians.
3) BP is (so they say) hard at work in cleaning efforts. Far out dude! Would appreciate the efforts even more if they weren’t using a dispersant that is more toxic and less efficient than the one they’re using now.
4) By the way, where are NOAA’s research and monitoring ships in all that jazz? Well, they’re not sailing in the Gulf, that’s for sure.
also, how could they know how many boats, skimmers, disperants, etc. needed unless they tried to estimate the actual flow as accurately as possible? Subpoena the emails!!! Now!
Will somebody ask the hard questions?
I am no engineer, but my idea would be to load up three tankers of thick steel plates and lower them on top of the hole. You would start with the outside of the hole and work inward. Yes, that would be very expensive and why I don’t feel that approach has been tried. If an educated engineer could comment on feasibility I would appreciate it.
Personally, I like the a-bomb solution. We put a-bombs in all the houses of people who supported offshore drilling (like, dude, what can go wrong dude? Like, totally, dude – we got the technology dude. Yeah, like totally)
And blow them up.
I find TheOilDrum blog has excellent and responsive technical commentary on the Deepwater situation.
I am not a marine biologist, but here is one idea that may work.
We strap vampire squids to the well and hopefully they release their gooy stuff that will seal the leak.
BP and the Coast Guard said last week that drilling the relief well was the best chance of stopping the leak. These early efforts are only PR both by Obama and BP.
“BP and the Coast Guard said last week that drilling the relief well was the best chance of stopping the leak. These early efforts are only PR both by Obama and BP.”
Well, no. The relief well is going to take weeks or months. Even longshot efforts to plug the leak quickly are worth trying.
Would you really be happier if they weren’t making any effort at all to plug the leak in other ways? It sounds like it.
This is what was said, I am only repeating that fact! Yes it might take months to drill the relief well and your reaction is why BP and Obama continue to put out various solutions to slow down the flow. Its possible that they might be successful in killing the well later this week and maybe not so better to realize that relief well drilling can work but it will take time.
Also spend sometime reviewing the Oil Drum site as they have the best commentary on the subject.
BP is giving Gaia Earth an involunatry enema, and the new insertion tube isn’t helping much.
I have faith that new technology will save us. Why, someday, robots will be doing all the work.
Technology is so wonderful that one day, it will have no need for Homo Not-So-Sapiens Not-So-Sapiens anymore.
Why have they waited so long to shut down the well?
“The Coast Guard commandant, Adm. Thad Allen, said that despite the siphoning, the spilled oil is spreading and now stretches from western Louisiana to Florida’s Key West.”
Um, this is just stupid. Even if the siphoning were working 100%, it wouldn’t do squat about the already-leaked oil that is spreading due to the action of wind and waves and current.
The efficiency of the private sector at work.
Obama IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS OIL SPILL!
In 2009, the Obama administration intervened to support the reversal of a court order that would have halted offshore oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Obama’s Interior Secretary Ken Salazar**, who has long had close ties to the industry, specifically cited BP’s Deepwater Horizon operation as one that should be allowed to go forward, according to a group involved in the court case.
A Washington DC Appeals Court ruled in April 2009 that the Bush administration’s five-year plan for offshore oil and gas drilling (covering 2007 to 2012) was not based on a proper review of the environmental impact of the drilling. Only days before the ruling, the Obama administration had granted BP a “categorical exclusion,” exempting it from an environmental impact study for the Deepwater Horizon project.The American Petroleum Institute, the oil industry trade group, intervened to reverse the court order, and was backed by the administration.
Kierán Suckling, http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/, involved in the original lawsuit, said that Salazar “filed a special motion asking the court to lift the injunction, and he cited the BP drilling several times by name in the request.”
Obama is the biggest recipient of BP political contributions
*Even since the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon less than three weeks ago, the Interior Department’s Minerals Management Services (MMS) has continued to grant “categorical exclusions” to oil and gas companies, allowing them to bypass environmental studies. The administration has publicly announced that no new offshore drilling grants will be issued until a review, to be completed by the end of the month. Nevertheless, at least 27 exemptions have been granted, including one for a BP exploration plan for drilling at more than 4,000 feet. Another exemption was granted to Anadarko Petroleum Corporation for an exploration plan at more than 9,000 feet. The Deepwater Horizon was drilling at about 5,000 feet.
**The Obama administration’s appointed Salazar as Interior Secretary, as a Senator for Colorado Salazar supported expanded drilling. Salazar received money from BP, and when he became Interior Secretary he brought several BP officials on his staff.
May 10 at 3:14pm
“Obama IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS OIL SPILL!”
Versus, let’s say… BP?
Well, by this logic:
“Versus, let’s say… BP?”
if you throw a man into a pit of crocodiles, it’s the crocidiles fault huh?
Again,
The Obama administration intervened to support the reversal of a court order that would have halted offshore oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Obama’s Interior Secretary Ken Salazar**, who has long had close ties to the industry, specifically cited BP’s Deepwater Horizon operation as one that should be allowed to go forward, according to a group involved in the court case.
A Washington DC Appeals Court ruled in April 2009 that the Bush administration’s five-year plan for offshore oil and gas drilling (covering 2007 to 2012) was not based on a proper review of the environmental impact of the drilling. Only days before the ruling, the Obama administration had granted BP a “categorical exclusion,” exempting it from an environmental impact study for the Deepwater Horizon project.
The Obama administration’s appointed Salazar as Interior Secretary, as a Senator for Colorado Salazar supported expanded drilling. Salazar received money from BP, and when he became Interior Secretary he brought several BP officials on his staff.
So yeah, Obama, circumvented the courts and law to allow BP to drill this PARTICULAR WELL. Had Obama not acted in behalf of BP, on this Deep water drilling site then we’d have nothing to talk about, because the spill would not have happened.
But Obama is BP’s biggest recipient of political donations…and as the scorpion told the frog as they both drowned…
Good points! this is not a Bush or Republican big oil issue but rather the responsibility of both Obama and the Democrat controlled Congress.
Good points?!
The application came in when? Was it before or after the innauguration? Cuz something like planning for an oil well happens in, like, days to weeks, right?
I’m sure Barrack Hussein (omg! wtf?!) called up the dude with the red (gasp) rubber “approved” stamp and said, “by Allah’s will, let these Brits through. They will totally hook me up with more cash.”
Again,
The Obama administration intervened to support the reversal of a court order that would have halted offshore oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Obama’s Interior Secretary Ken Salazar**, who has long had close ties to the industry, specifically cited BP’s Deepwater Horizon operation as one that should be allowed to go forward, according to a group involved in the court case.
A Washington DC Appeals Court ruled in April 2009 that the Bush administration’s five-year plan for offshore oil and gas drilling (covering 2007 to 2012) was not based on a proper review of the environmental impact of the drilling. Only days before the ruling, the Obama administration had granted BP a “categorical exclusion,” exempting it from an environmental impact study for the Deepwater Horizon project.
The Obama administration’s appointed Salazar as Interior Secretary, as a Senator for Colorado Salazar supported expanded drilling. Salazar received money from BP, and when he became Interior Secretary he brought several BP officials on his staff.
So yeah, Obama, circumvented the courts and law to allow BP to drill this PARTICULAR WELL. Had Obama not acted in behalf of BP, on this Deep water drilling site then we’d have nothing to talk about, because the spill would not have happened.
But Obama is BP’s biggest recipient of political donations…and as the scorpion told the frog as they both drowned…
If I were BP, I would keep the flow rate of the leak unmeasured and low-balled to the lowest credible rate, say, 5,000 bpd. Under no circumstances would I allow an accurate measure.
That way, a question mark would always be attached to the extent of the damage, particularly all the oil that never reaches shore.
Sam Hampster,
Sylvia Earle of the National Geographic Society testified before congress today.
She started her testimony by saying that “I really come to speak for the ocean.”
She spoke of the great difficulty in quantifying the damages. This is so because there is so little known about the Gulf, no baseline of what things were before the spill that can be compared to the way things will be after the spill. Many consider the Gulf to be sort of “industrial wasteland,” she said, used primarily as a “source for petrochemicals,” and budgets to study Gulf marine ecology have been slashed to the bone.
She also bemoaned the fact that there was no reliable estimate of the magnitude of the spill, which makes estimating the potential damages impossible.
She lashed out at the use of dispersants, calling them “more cosmetic than helpful.”
If you’ve got half an hour to take a look, and are interested in seeing some compelling testimony on behalf of the sea, her testimony begins here at minute 00:03:45:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/293597-3
And of course BP et al are not without their advocates in congress, such as John Duncan (R-Tennessee), who can be seen here beginning at minute 01:48:40.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/293597-1
Duncan asserts that congress shouldn’t “over react” and “end up hurting millions of poorer and lower-income working people in this country” by “driving gas prices to six or eight dollars per gallon.”
Noting that BP has 23,000 employees in this country, he says “I don’t want them to be harmed by this or the thousands of shareholders that these companies have.”
“The last major oil spill was in Santa Barbara 41 years ago,” he reminds us, and citing all the thousands of offshore wells that have been drilled in the interim, claims “this is almost always a safe and environmentally safe way to produce oil by the percentages.”
He concludes by saying he is “very impressed” by BP’s response to the spill thus far.
I understand that one of the historical myths from Exxon Valdez was the amount of spill in numbers. We’re seeing the same thing here with the BS 5000 barrels. Without going into the physics of the thing, it would have to be much greater as the lease cost of the rig (WSJ said $500k + 250K per day) would suggest that the well was supposed to yield at least the cost of the the lease per day in barrels. Calculating at say $50 per barrel that would mean that the well should yield at least three times 5,000 to even begin to pay the rent. If the stuff is coming out at pressure enough to blow up the equipment, it would follow that the flow is much greater than the publicly stated. If BP is not eventually not bankrupted by this spill, it would suggest that not enough was done to stop and repair the damage. Until shareholders are totally wiped out as a result of this kind of corporate fuckups, no lessons can be learned for the future by the resource extraction industry.
Maybe the team of mostly nuclear physicists, appointed by the Obama Administration last week, will recommend that we put a stop to BP’s gushing oil well in the Gulf by killing it with nukes — something the Russians recommended that we do. But since this would cause BP’s entire investment in the oil well to go down the drain, so to speak, BP will do everything in its power to keep us from blowing it up. But if we do decide to kill the well by blowing it up, I think we oughta blow it up by using a few of the depleted uranium-tipped bunker busters that we have stored on the British island of Diego Garcia. These are the bombs which we plan to use on Iran’s underground nuclear facilities. BTW, Diego Garcia is the only island which makes up the Chagos Archipelago that’s not subject to the African Nuclear Weapons Free Zone Treaty, giving the UK and the US the freedom to base their nuclear weapons there.
But now that it has come to light that we know very little about how to drill for oil in water over a mile deep, we probably know even less about how to blow a gushing oil well up in such deep water and under such enormous pressure without making it gush even more. So we are probably working with too many unknowns to be trying to stop the gusher by blowing it up!
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/it-time-blow-leaking-gulf-oil-well-b
I have a distinct feeling that they do not have the weapons to work at 5000ft under water, since this is not a practical consideration(yet) for theaters in war. I know that practical considerations rarely come to fore, so the next step might be a declaration of war on underwater oil leaks.
When we can’t even deal with visible tangible solid/liquid toxic stuff such as coal slag (not poison anymore) and raw crude, there is no hope for dealing with invisible and for that matter totally non-toxic CO2. Proponents of green house gas sequestration should take note that this is the energy industry dealing with clearly toxic material. D Can we trust them to deal with CO2?
(Chernobyl):(USSR)::(Deepwater Horizon):(US oligarchy)
I have been listening oil spill fiasco on NPR and watching CNN/BBC/Fox/PBS/60 minutes and what not but here my take on it without taking any side
Toyota did a mistake and it was all over the place, issue blown out of proportion and I see a mixed reaction to this catastrophe (some blaming BP, some blaming president, some transocean). 75 MM is peanuts for these execs who don’t have equipments to clean the mess they have created. BP should lose its license for doing this business.PERIOD. No use talking about going green/ sustainability etc if actions don’t match up.
If 60 Minutes is correct on their investigation of the Deepwater Horizon accident, TransOcean is responsible for the failure of the blowout preventer because they didn’t reapir a control unit and they damaged the annular which seals the well and is used for pressure tests. However, TransOcean wanted to keep the drilling mud in the hole to keep a lid on the well. BP ordered the drilling mud replaced with seawater to save money. We are talking a few million dollars here probably. So, to save a little bit of time and money, BP caused a catastrophic blowout, killed 11 men, lost the rig, and caused a damaging spill that has caused the loss of several billions of dollars and partially destroyed a fishery as well as dashed oil industry hopes to drill on other parts of the continental shelf.
We are all responsible for the spill if we own gasoline powered cars or use plastics or eat crops fertilized by manmade fertilizers. Did any of us want this disaster to happen? No. What are we going to do about it? Should we allow the oil companies to be responsible for clean up and containment, or should we have them pay into an escrow fund that pays a third party to contain and clean up after them. BP has screwed up twice now on containment and cleanups, so we have to remove the incentive by the oil industry to skimp on containment and clean up costs. These costs are analogous to insurance costs. We are trying to prevent the loss of wildlife and damage to the environment.
You can bitch and moan that BP isn’t doing enough to solve the problem, but no one has ever had this problem before. This is the deepest undersea well ever drilled that has had a blowout. No one has had to overcome these high pressures and tremendous depths before. We’ve already seen one solution that has worked in the past fail due to the formation of methane hydrates due to the cold water temperatures and pressures. Had the well been in shallower waters, it might have worked. BP is likely trying to seal the well as fast as possible since they are losing money rapidly by the day. Their image may never recover from this either.
Our job is to pressure our government to fix the laws and ensure that this doesn’t happen again. We need to fix the MMS and make it a real watchdog instead of a lapdog. We likely need to stiffen blowout preventer requirements and regulations and add more safety features and fail safes to the rigs and BOPs. We need a response system in place to minimize damage when it happens.
Alternatively, we can decide to abandon the deep continental shelf for oil exploration. If so, we better start investing in other energy technologies if we don’t want to mine for oil. We need a real debate on energy policy in this country which we don’t have now. The oil industry has been driving policy for a long time. Do we as a society want that? Why did we spend billions creatind a nuclear waste repository in the desert where no one lives and let Harry Reid close it down? Is that smart policy when we store radioactive waste locally at nuclear power plants instead of shipping it to a central facility? Are there better and safer reactor technologies? If we go with solar or wind power, what technology do we need to create storage capacity to buffer the rapid ups and downs of power generation due to clouds or change in wind speeds? Discourse and exchange of ideas was one of the reasons the Internet was built. it was a tool of and for education. It wasn’t build just to lodge complaints and opinions.
You make many points, and my reply to them are:
excellent
excellent
excellent, and…
excellent
Second alex black’s response.
However, wind is more stable than you think, and has less ‘downtime’ than coal and nuclear I believe, and there are solutions for problems of storage that are both elegant and environmentally friendly. Probably, a combination of wind and solar is all humanity needs, done right, then we have tidal, geothermal, and others. I’m at work so can’t fire up YouTube to find the presentation I saw, but believe the guy calls himself greenman3610. Check him out, he certainly cheers me up…
Toby
jbmoore says “…….We need a real debate on energy policy in this country which we don’t have now………”
How about real economic policy debate?
How about real defense(I am trying not to snicker) policy debate?
How about real private capital accumulation policy debate?
How about real anything debate?
Not until the public understands that less than 1 percent of the population is keep the rest of us from making reasonable social policy and world governance. All of our good meaning is not worth a whiff unless the private accumulation of wealth and power is severely restricted so the playing field is more balanced.
As I have stated before about the BP situation, here we have a private corporation making unilateral ecological decisions that have world wide impacts instead of governments that are supposedly answerable to their constituents. If this isn’t a clear example of fascism, what is?
I don’t have a link but have read that except for the economic consequences to BP this site could have been closed within days of the blowout. Who knows what to believe anymore, certainly not the MSM.
From my comments at The Oil Drum on 5/17
If BP can in fact introduce a backflow of mud that eventually allows the well to be capped that would indeed be great news.
As someone who has never worked in the oil industry but is experienced in creating solutions to design problems, a number of things about the attempts to slow and cap the flow puzzle me. With four weeks and a reported 300 engineers brainstorming the problem I”d have thought that someone would have understood the basic chemistry of methane hydrate formation before spending the first week building a worthless silo to contain the leak. Another week trying to thread a small hose into the high volume flow coming out of the riser pipe. Perhaps someone should have tried to insert a garden hose into the end of a high pressure fire hose by hand first—. At best a small portion of the flow will be captured.
So how do you tap into the high velocity flow of the drill riser pipe and reduce the flow to the point where it can be capped? Fabricate a clamp-on external saddle with a pipe nipple welded on to it. While you are at it build a half dozen more. If the night shift can’t complete the job in 12 hours fire the lot. Attach valves capable of being closed at high pressures— BP should have them in the parts bin–. Clamp in place near the BOP & drill a hole through the drill pipe perhaps using a water jet cutting device or procedures the industry has surely developed for such operations. Repeat until the flow is diverted sufficiently that the end can be capped. Then successively close valves until a workable balance between pressure in the riser pipe and capture processing capability at the surface is reached.
And last night—
“We have said we’re not going to hide behind a $75 million cap on the liabilities. To date, we have spent more than half-a-billion dollars on the spill response. We’re not going to ask for reimbursements for the American people for that effort.
And we’re going to keep at this. And shutting the well off, containing it at sea, and keeping it off the beaches as long as it takes, Jeff.”
Bob Dudley, BP spokesman, Wed 5/19 news conference.
Really amazing that Obama is doing so little. If you take BP’s lowball estimate that it thinks that 5,000 barrels of crude a day has leaked, that would already equal 6,300,000 gallons already headed to our shores. Then, if you consider that this wont be fixed for at least two months, that will be at least almost 13 million gallons, which is probably an estimate that is off by 50% … and Obama is doing what ….. bullshitting about job growth and reform on wall street …….. Obviously Bush is the worst thing to have ever happened to America — but Obama is giving that corrupt bastard a great run for his money!
> The Exxon Valdez oil spill occurred in Prince William Sound, Alaska, on March 24, 1989, when the Exxon Valdez, an oil tanker bound for Long Beach, California, hit Prince William Sound’s Bligh Reef and spilled an estimated minimum 10.8 million US gallons
Hopefully Obama’s approval rating will drop as low as Bush’s within a month!!!
The troubling results for the Bush administration come amid reminders about the devastating impact of Hurricane Katrina and negative assessments of how the government and the president have handled it for six months.
In a separate poll, two out of three Americans said they do not think President Bush has responded adequately to the needs of Katrina victims. Only 32 percent approve of the way President Bush is responding to those needs, a drop of 12 points from last September’s poll, taken just two weeks after the storm made landfall.
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je suis abasourdi de constater que mes e mail proposant une hypothèse de solution en tenant compte du phénomène de pression, de température, de synthèse ou de catabolisme vue la masse de pétrole qui ne remonte pas à la surface et qui va dériver vers des courants marins et, plus le temps passe moins les responsables accepteront leurs responsabilités.
Pour moi, il est évident que nous sommes grugé par des intérêt économiques.
sur les milliers d’ingénieurs sur cette planète le problème serait certainement résolu. J’ai contacté le site Horizonsupport@oegllc.com.qui est en réalitée une arnaque organisée par BP, A mon avis, il est inimaginable qu’une entreprise de cette empleure ne puisse pas avoir prévue cette possibilité a moins que quelqu’un profite de ce laxisme . l’intelligence a des limites mais l’argent n’en a pas
je suis abasourdi de constater que mes e mail proposant une hypothèse de solution en tenant compte du phénomène de pression, de température, de synthèse ou de catabolisme vue la masse de pétrole qui ne remonte pas à la surface et qui va dériver vers des courants marins et, plus le temps passe moins les responsables accepteront leurs responsabilités.
Pour moi, il est évident que nous sommes grugé par des intérêt économiques.
sur les milliers d’ingénieurs sur cette planète le problème serait certainement résolu. J’ai contacté le site Horizonsupport@oegllc.com.qui est en réalitée une arnaque organisée par BP, A mon avis, il est inimaginable qu’une entreprise de cette empleure ne puisse pas avoir prévue cette possibilité a moins que quelqu’un profite de ce laxisme . l’intelligence a des limites mais l’argent n’en a pas
bonjour, toujour Aucune Réponse ‘un homme au Québec message encopie recevez Vous
respectueusement
Gilbert Thiémard
horizonsupport@oegllc.com.
Bonjour,
Ma suggestion, concernant le problème qui semble être difficile à résoudre dans le golfe du Mexique.
Mon problème est que je ne suis pas anglophone
Assurez-bas (descendre, à l’automne) un dôme non métalliques sphériques sans stop (arrêt), totalement lisse d’environ de 50 mètres de diamètre
Dans ce dôme sur le dessus du jet d’huile, une sorte de fabrique ou de l’extracteur à jus activé (poursuivi) par la puissance de sortie du jet d’huile qui va mettre le volume de sortie (sortie) en masse, qui va prendre une direction verticale, mais pas circulaire (de gestion).
Du moment ou la vitesse est suffisante (auto-important), 4 ou 5 sorties latérales (rejets), à utiliser vous cette force centrifuge dans un angle de 15 à 20 degrés de ramener ce pétrole vers la surface avec une puissance nettement moindre.
Au centre de ce dôme d’air à haute pression chaude va insister sur la vitesse de rotation de cette masse et, vu le nombre de sorties (rejets), la pression d’éjection sera diminué
Gilbert Thiémard
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téléphone 024 / 425 05 28
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En Réponse à “Thommen, Isabelle” :
Monsieur,
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Gilbert Thiémard says:
May 27, 2010 at 8:04 am
Hello, toujour No Answer ‘ a man to Quebec message encopie receive You
Respectfully
Gilbert Thiémard
Horizonsupport@oegllc.com.
Hello,
My suggestion, concerning the problem which seems to be difficult to resolve in the Gulf of Mexico.
My problem is that I am not English-speaking
Assurez-bas (come down(fall), in autumn) a dome not metallic spherical without stop (stop)((ruling)), totally smooth about 50 meters in diameter
In this dome on the top of the jet of oil, a kind of factory or of the extractor with activated juice (pursued)((continued)) by the output power of the jet of oil which is going to put the volume of exit(release) (exit)((release)) en masse, which is going to take a vertical direction(management), but not circular (of management).
Of moment or the speed is sufficient(self-important) (auto-importing)((auto-important)), 4 or 5 side exits(releases) (refusals)((discharges)), to use you this centrifugal force in an angle from 15 to 20 degrees to return this oil towards the surface with one
Gilbert Thiémard says:
May 27, 2010 at 8:04 am
Buenos días, toujour Ninguna Respuesta ‘ un hombre a Quebec mensaje encopie reciba Usted
Respetuosamente
Gilbert Thiémard
Horizonsupport@oegllc.com.
Buenos días,
Mi sugerencia, concerniendo al problema que parece ser difícil de resolver en el golfo de México.
Mi problema es que no soy anglófono
Asegure bajo (descender, en otoño) una cúpula no metálicos esféricos stop sin (parada(interrupción)), totalmente lisa de cerca de 50 metros de diámetro
En esta cúpula sobre la parte superior del chorro de aceite, un tipo de fábrica o del extractor a zumo acelerado (perseguido) por la potencia(fuerza) de salida del chorro de aceite que va a poner el volumen de salida (salida) en masa, que va a tomar una dirección vertical, pero no circular (de gestión).
Del momento o la velocidad es suficiente (autoimportante), 4 o 5 salidas laterales (desestimaciones(retoños)), a utilizar usted esta fuerza centrifuga en un ángulo de 15 a 20 grados de devolver este petróleo hacia la superficie con una
Gilbert Thiémard says:
May 27, 2010 at 8:04 am
Guten Tag, toujour Keine Antwort ‘ ein Mann(Mensch) auf Quebec Nachricht, der ist encopie, bekommen(empfangen) Sie Sie
Respektvoll
Gilbert Thiémard
Horizonsupport@oegllc.com.
Guten Tag,
Mein Vorschlag, der das Problem betrifft, das schwer zu sein scheint, im Golf von Mexiko zu lösen.
Mein Problem ist, daß ich nicht englischsprachig bin
Assurez-bas (gehen(steigen), im Herbst hinunter(aus)) eine Kuppel nicht metallisch kugelförmig ohne halt (Stoppen)((Urteil)), völlig, das glatt ist, etwa 50 Meter Durchmesser ist
In dieser Kuppel auf der Oberseite des Ölwurfes, eine Art des Werkes oder des Ausziehers im beschleunigten(dem aktivierten) durch die Macht von Verlassen(Ausfuhr) (fortgesetzten) Saft des Ölwurfes, das das Volumen(Band) von Verlassen(Ausfuhr) (Verlassen)((Ausfuhr)) massenhaft legen wird, das eine senkrechte Leitung(Richtung), aber nicht Rundenschreiber nehmen wird (Verwaltung).
Des Momentes oder ist die Geschwindigkeit ( einführendes Auto), 4 oder 5 Seitenverlassen(Seitenausfuhren) (Ablehnungen) ausreichend, Sie diese Zentrifugalkraft in einer Ecke(Winkel) von 15 bis 20 Grade zu benutzen, dieses Erdöl zur Oberfläche mit einer zurückzubringen(zu senken
Gilbert Thiémard says: May 27, 2010 at,8:04 am buongiorno, toujour Nessuna Risposta ‘un uomo in Quebec messaggio encopie vi riceve rispettosamente Gilbert Thiémard
horizonsupport@oegllc.com.
Buongiorno, la Mia suggestione, concernente il problema che sembra essere difficile a risolvere nel golfo del Messico.
Il mio problema è che non sono anglofono
Assicurare-bassi (scendere, all’autunno, un duomo non metallici sferici senza stop (arresto), totalmente liscio di circa 50 metri di diametro
In questo duomo sul disopra dello zampillo di olio, un tipo di fabbrica o dell’estrattore a succo attivato, inseguito, per il potere di uscita dello zampillo di olio che va a mettere il volume di uscita, uscita, in massa che va a prendere una direzione verticale, ma non circolare, di gestione.
Del momento o la velocità è sufficiente (automobile-importando), 4 o 5 uscite laterali (rigetti), ad utilizzarvi questa forza centrifuga in un angolo di 15 a 20 gradi di riportare questo petrolio verso la superficie con una,
Гильберт Тиéмард говорит: 27 мая, 2010 в 8:04 Привет, toujour Никакой Ответ “человек к Квебекскому encopie сообщения не получают Вас почтительно Гильберт Тиéмард
хоризонсуппорт@оугллк.ком.
Привет, Мое предложение, относительно проблемы который, как кажется, будет трудным решать в Мексиканском заливе.
Моя проблема состоит в том, что я не English-speaking
Assurez-bas (снижаются (падение ), осенью) купол не металлический сферический без остановки (остановка) ((правящий)), полностью приглаживают примерно 50 метров в диаметре В этом куполе на вершине реактивного самолета нефти, своего рода фабрики или экстрактора с активизированным соком (преследуемый) ((длительный)) выходной мощностью реактивного самолета нефти, которая собирается помещать объем выхода (выпуск) (выход) (()) выпуска в массе, который собирается брать вертикальное руководство (управление), но не проспект (управление).
Из момента или скорости достаточен (важничающий) (авто-импортирующий) ((авто-важный)), 4 или 5 выходов стороны (выпуски) (отказы) (()) уволенных рабочих, использовать вас это центробежный
ギルバート Thiemard は言います：２０１０年５月２７日において午前８時０４分、こんにちは、「ケベックメッセージ encopie への男があなた Respectfully ギルバート Thiemard を迎え入れるという答えを toujour しないでください
Horizonsupport@oegllc 。com 。
こんにちは、メキシコ湾で解決することが難しいように思われる問題に関係して、私の提案。
私の問題は私が英語 – 話をしていないということです
停止がない球形の金属でないドーム（止まってください）（（支配））、まったく滑らかなおよそ５０が直径で測る Assurez – bas （秋に、（落ちてください）降りて来てください）
オイルの噴射、一種の工場のあるいは（追いかけられた）活性化するジュースと一緒の抽出者（（継続的））のこの頂点のドームで（マネージメントについて）垂直の、しかし円形ではなく方向（経営者）をとろうとしているボリュームを、一団となって、出口（リリース）の（出口）（（リリース））のしようとしているオイルの噴射のアウトプット力によって。
重要性あるいはスピードについて（（自動的に重要で））（自動的に輸入すること）（うぬぼれていて）十分です、４つあるいは５つのサイド出口（リリース）（拒絶）（（解任））、あなたを使うために、これが遠心性です
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שלום, ההצעה שלי, בקשר לבעיה שכנראה קשה לפתור במפרץ של מקסיקו.
הבעיה שלי היא שאני לא דובר אנגלית
הבטח נמוך ( לרדת, לסתו ) כיפה עגול מתכתי בלי עוצר ( עוצר ), לגמרי חלק של על 50 מטרים של קוטר
בכיפה הזאת על המעל של זריקת השמן, סוג של מפעל או האקסטראכטור למיץ הפעילה ( רדף אחרי ) על ידי הכוח של יציאה של זריקת השמן שהולכת לשים את הנפח של יציאה ( נעזבת ) במסה, זה הולכת לקחת כיוון זקוף, אבל לא עגולה ( של ניהול ).
של הרגע או המהירות מספיקה ( מכונית חשובה ), 4 או 5 יציאות צדדיות ( פיטורים ), להשתמש בך חוזק הצנטריפוגלי הזה בזוית של 15 ל20 מעלות להחזיר את השמן הזה בכיוון המשטח עם אחד
Gilbert Thiémard says:
May 27, 2010 at 8:04 am
bonjour, toujour Aucune Réponse ‘un homme au Québec message encopie recevez Vous
respectueusement
Gilbert Thiémard
horizonsupport@oegllc.com.
Bonjour,
Ma suggestion, concernant le problème qui semble être difficile à résoudre dans le golfe du Mexique.
Mon problème est que je ne suis pas anglophone
Assurez-bas (descendre, à l’automne) un dôme non métalliques sphériques sans stop (arrêt), totalement lisse d’environ de 50 mètres de diamètre
Dans ce dôme sur le dessus du jet d’huile, une sorte de fabrique ou de l’extracteur à jus activé (poursuivi) par la puissance de sortie du jet d’huile qui va mettre le volume de sortie (sortie) en masse, qui va prendre une direction verticale, mais pas circulaire (de gestion).
Du moment ou la vitesse est suffisante (auto-important), 4 ou 5 sorties latérales (rejets), à utiliser vous cette force centrifuge dans un angle de 15 à 20 degrés de ramener ce pétrole vers la surface avec une puissance nettement moindre.
Au centre de ce dôme d’air à haute pression chaude va insister sur la vitesse de rotation de cette masse et, vu le nombre de sorties (rejets), la pression d’éjection sera diminué
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Monsieur,
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