2:00PM Water Cooler 8/13/2018

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1. Big River Bandido August 13, 2018 at 2:11 pm

   Somehow the bold and Italics got activated not only for the post, but it’s affecting the comment box, too.
   1. Randy August 13, 2018 at 3:03 pm

      As I see them say a lot on SST, “Turn off the italics”.
2. Lambert Strether Post authorAugust 13, 2018 at 2:23 pm

   Fixed. And to think I hate that word “bold,” as in “bold Progressives,” “bold new policies,” and so on.
   1. Carolinian August 13, 2018 at 2:52 pm

      At least it’s better than “muscular.”
      1. pretzelattack August 13, 2018 at 2:58 pm

         or “agile”
         1. Swamp Yankee August 13, 2018 at 4:59 pm

            I worked at a newspaper that covered the New England insurance industry about a dozen years ago. This was when the term “granular” — which I had known from undergraduate geology courses — began to be adopted by business flacks and hacks.

            The Liberty Mutual PR liar telling me about how “granular” (and “agile and muscular”!) their new ‘product’ (read: financial instrument) was a major bulls— tell, since she wasn’t talking about silt deposits or the formation of gravel pans.
            1. Carolinian August 13, 2018 at 5:19 pm

               I think Hillary was the one who was always using “muscular” to describe her future programs. She was the Charles Atlas of foreign policy.
               1. The Rev Kev August 13, 2018 at 7:28 pm

                  Until Atlas shrugged.
                  1. ambrit August 14, 2018 at 12:38 am

                     Now she is besieged in Guilt’s Gulch, or is that Gilt’s Gulch.
         2. ShamanicFallout August 13, 2018 at 9:32 pm

            I like a ‘robust’ dialogue
3. flora August 13, 2018 at 2:25 pm

   re: Curious timing. Producing the video would solve the evidentiary problems.

   Since when does the Dem estab need evidence? (russia, russia, russia)
4. Carey August 13, 2018 at 2:33 pm

   I thought the Paul Street article at Truthdig was a very good electoral-politics overview.
   Thinking that there’s going to have to be another kind.

   And the photo of the cat is great; love the self-possession!
   1. Elizabeth Burton August 13, 2018 at 7:20 pm

      Mr. Street’s diatribe isn’t the only one of it’s kind I’ve read, and it makes the same mistakes all the others did and will likely continue to to. He assumes that just because progressive candidates are running as Democrats, the goal is to recover the party. I’m not saying there aren’t those who think that’s doable, but many if not most of us see them as just a useful tool because the first item on the agenda must be to break the Republican stranglehold on Congress.

      I don’t know what Bernie Sanders’ agenda is, but if he does plan to run in ’20 and wants a snowball’s chance, I still say he can’t afford to go full rebel. As someone pointed out, if the entire body of 40% of the voters who are independents could be depended on to get off their thumbs and vote, that might be feasible. Likewise if even two-thirds of the 60% eligible who also sit on their thumbs every election exercised their right.

      Won’t happen. Not this year. Not next year. Maybe in five years we can have enough fires lit a third party might be possible. Even then, it would have to fight tooth-and-nail to break the chains the two major parties have set up to make its existence all but impossible in many if not most states. I, for one, firmly believe that’s what DSA has in mind, and that fortunately it also has people in charge whose heads are firmly in reality. Hence, its support for candidates running as Democrats, And doing so fully aware there will be rabid pushback from the establishment.

      I have to say, this kind of article strikes me as anti-progressive. Which makes me wonder whose side the authors are really on. I saw the same thing coming from Brooks’s trolls in ’16 in their effort to convince people Bernie wasn’t a viable choice. So, now it’s Ms. Ocasio-Cortez who’s to be dismissed as having only won because the other guy slacked off, not because she worked her tail off.

      The other thing these articles overlook when pointing out how voters shunned progressives is that most of the winners had name recognition the newbies didn’t. Anyone who thinks the majority of voters will spend five minutes checking out the candidates’ policy platforms is delusional. Just like with every other popularity contest ever presented, they’ll vote for the name they recognize. It was precisely why Clinton did so well on Super Tuesday—people in most of those states didn’t have a clue who Bernie Sanders was, much less what he stands for.

      So, while it’s a nice takedown of everybody, Mr. Street’s piece isn’t useful for advancing the revolution. Indeed, it’s more likely to have the opposite effect presented to those who are still clinging to the fairy tales told by the media.

      And, yes, tuxedo cats are notoriously self-possessed. :-)
      1. Oregoncharles August 14, 2018 at 1:49 am

         Bernie is the most popular politician in the country. If he ran as an independent or a Green, he would have an excellent chance because he could get a 3-way split. At that rate, someone can win with 34% of the vote. With the system blown apart, th eLibertarians would get more votes, too; maybe even less than 34%. He has the support to get on every single ballot – the barriers are unreasonable but could be overcome.

         If there’s a way to prevent massive cheating.

         At that rate, he could win or, more likely, it goes into a draw in the Electoral College. That would be, you might say, interesting. As in unprecedented.
      2. DonCoyote August 14, 2018 at 10:28 am

         +1

         The facts in the Street piece are good, but the conclusions are questionable. I think people are ignoring what has already been revealed about Bernie Sanders:

         1) Decent, moral person (Or at least was. Is it too much of a stretch to infer that he is not in it “just to become president”, i.e. that he does not lust tremendously after power or lucre? Maybe).
         2) Clever, experienced politician. Remember that NYT times piece that they had to changed the headline, lest it come off as too positive? The original headline was “Bernie Sanders Scored Victories for Years Via Legislative Side Doors.” He knows how to get things done within the system. He knows there is a lot Obama could have done without congress (DOJ/antitrust). And, even if he got very little “done”, other than to fully expose the hypocrisy of most D’s, it might still count as a win.

         So I don’t think Bernie is “blindly” clinging to the Democrats at all. He has his reasons, and he may have reasons for not wanting to make them public.
   2. The Rev Kev August 13, 2018 at 7:36 pm

      It seems to be a very young cat. I thought from other fotos that it was much older.
   3. Jen August 13, 2018 at 8:01 pm

      I’m not sure it’s possible to overplay the cat card. Great picture! I do believe the cat knows, as most do, that s/he is all that.
5. flora August 13, 2018 at 2:36 pm

   re: One can only wonder why the Democrat Party is so solicitous of the intelligence community, considering their many debacles.

   Maybe because the Intel Agencies receive over 68% of the US black budget; that is, money that is never formally accounted for. If the best way to rob a bank is to own one, as Bill Black wrote, maybe the best way to loot a govt is by pumping up unaccountable spending billions in the name of nat. sec. And the best way to do that would be electing people from same to approve budgets and things. (Maybe we could rename it the National Security ‘Foundation’. No one knows where the money goes. heh.

   From 2013:
   The CIA, NSA and National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) receive more than 68 percent of the black budget. The National Geospatial-Intelligence Program’s (NGP) budget has grown over 100 percent since 2004.

   https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/black-budget/
   1. Lambert Strether Post authorAugust 13, 2018 at 4:16 pm

      > No one knows where the money goes. heh.

      John Prine…
6. KB August 13, 2018 at 2:48 pm

   Keith Ellison is my Representative.
   I found this statement this morning on our local Fox9news:
   I really don’t know what to make of it…..
   I do know however, I dislike words like: intersectionality, transactional, and never before heard narcissist abuse…
   Am really curious what readers impression of this are?..and yes, still no video…..
   http://www.fox9.com/news/karen-monahan-woman-who-accused-rep-ellison-of-domestic-abuse-releases-statement
   1. Carey August 13, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      Lot of words there. Cui bono?
   2. g August 13, 2018 at 4:06 pm

      It’s a tough one for me too, I’ll watch how it evolves over the next few days and read the woman’s statement. It’s definitely important that we hold our favourite people to the same standards as we do for conservative figures.
   3. Mark Gisleson August 13, 2018 at 4:22 pm

      Pretty sure this is the woman Ellison left his wife of 25 years for. I read her bio. She works for the Sierra Club, teaches at the UM, does stuff for the Science Center and her previous work was similar. I’m pretty sure hooking up with a Congressman hasn’t hurt her ability to get gigs.

      There are innumerable MN business interests that have to be terrified of Ellison as AG. The timing is purely political, just enough time for everyone to hear, not enough time for any kind of rebuttal.

      Lots of surprises in MN this last week. None of them seem to be harming any Clinton-favored candidates (which would mostly be the same businesses threatened by Ellison). Hard to say who’s doing what to who, but dirty deeds have been done.
   4. Darthbobber August 13, 2018 at 5:34 pm

      Could be true, maybe, but where specific incidents are mentioned, the evidence that would presumably exist, since messages and other things which leave records at both ends are also mentioned, nothing is forthcoming. And a lot of the rest is couched in such general terms that it’s hard to make heads or tails of it.

      Anybody remember the jurisdiction shopping Jane doe rape case against Trump that vanished into thin air the day after the election?
      1. Aleric August 13, 2018 at 8:46 pm

         Not a big fan, still hold a small grudge for him being rude to our GP candidate in 2006. There were rumors of anger issues at that time, but he was always good in public. And he has mended bridges with GP officeholders since. The timing of this is way too convienient. There is no shortage of dirty trixters in the Mpls DFL. Unless the video shows up, my guess is an empty smear like Melvin Carter’s gun in the St. Paul mayoral race last year, or some unrelated audio of him yelling will turn up to keep the story around for one more news cycle.
   5. anon y'mouse August 13, 2018 at 7:33 pm

      my take on this, as a female (woman, cis whateverinheckwearesupposedtocallourselves) is almost entirely opposite all of yours. i am ASSuming you are men.

      i would believe her. because she relays very specific incidents, and patterns over time. her tale sounds like what i have heard and witnessed from an abused person in my life. the fact that she has to preface her statements in terms that make it obvious that she sounds like she will not be believed because she is both A Woman and A Person of Color doesn’t mean it didn’t happen as she claimed. much as the way in which the famous Clinton accuser’s account rings true. people in power are used to getting what they want. whether that power derives from their image as someone saintly, or no this must have a corrupting influence on character.

      yes, dirty deeds have been done and could have been done here. i am not denying that. but i find it very telling that all of you immediately jump on that as the reason this statement is being given (it may be why it is being given NOW), and not that it may have actually happened much like what she claims to have happened. it shows that her instinct to give a preface to her statement about all of the ways women are disbelieved, and especially women of color disbelieved, is sadly still needed and yet also totally unheard and unheeded.
   6. Jen August 13, 2018 at 8:12 pm

      If she’s willing to say all this and has a video, she should be willing and able to produce it. And how is it that she is completely stunned by his behavior, and yet, assuming there is a video, is videoing the encounter?

      With apologies to Jane Austen, I hate to be severe upon my sex, but I must speak as I find.
      1. Darthbobber August 14, 2018 at 1:05 am

         On Sunday she couldn’t find it because it was on a misplaced flash drive. Today she will not produce it because it would be retraumatizing, and takes umbrage that anybody would ask her to. She releases various tweets and messages, some obviously truncated, and none of which deal with the heart of the matter.

         She says she has no desire to effect the election, which is tomorrow.

         Her denial of being contacted by interested players is also drawn curiously narrowly. Hasn’t been contacted by “candidates for atttorney general or their campaigns” which leaves a whole lot of room.

         Yes, there should be a serious investigation of such allegations, but number 1 that would require some cooperation from her, which it seems clear won’t be happening, and number 2 it’s preposterous on the face of it to think any investigation could happen in the interval between Saturday afternoon and the polls opening on Tuesday morning.
   7. cnchal August 13, 2018 at 9:27 pm

      > Am really curious what readers impression of this are?

      I have read Karen’s statement. She describes living with a narcissist, and knowing what I know, her description is dead nuts on. Consider yourself lucky that you know nothing of and have never heard of narcissistic abuse.

      My view is that the political system self selects for narcissists. Who else wants the jawb of being the fatuous “leader” and constantly the center of attention. That’s just who they are, at heart absolutely horrible people.
      1. Mark Gisleson August 14, 2018 at 3:34 pm

         So, based on a professional Identity politics advocate’s description of abuse, you have diagnosed Keith Ellison? Seriously?

         I blogged heavily about narcissistic personality disorder fifteen years ago (a friend was fired by one). I have met Keith Ellison. He does not suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. He is humble and inquisitive in person. Narcissists can’t fake that, not with normal people.

         For Ellison to be a narcissist, you need to develop a new theory of narcissism that allows people to be humble in public and deferential to their inferiors.
7. Clive August 13, 2018 at 2:50 pm

   That cat looks distinctly wise beyond their years. A quality which I try to aspire to, usually failing miserably.
   1. nycTerrierist August 13, 2018 at 3:20 pm

      and what a stunning photo it is!

      “If man could be crossed with the cat, it would improve man but deteriorate the cat.”

      Mark Twain
      1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 5:31 pm

         In ancient Egypt, men only wished they could cross with Bastet, the cat goddess.

         Probably prohibited.
   2. Hana M August 13, 2018 at 4:28 pm

      I’m sort of in love with your cat. More…rrrr…
   3. kgw August 13, 2018 at 5:11 pm

      That beautiful pattern, abounds in the catly people…Can’t call it an “Abyssinian,” but definitely needs its own moniker!
      1. Mo's Bike Shop August 13, 2018 at 7:42 pm

         You mean the Batman cat?
   4. Stephen V. August 13, 2018 at 5:46 pm

      Handsome boy Lambert!
      Appreciate the update.
      Winter is coming. ..
8. Summer August 13, 2018 at 2:54 pm

   Re: “In their bracing and brilliant book, ‘A General Theory of Love,’ psychiatrists Thomas Lewis, Fari Amini, and Richard Lannon put America on the couch, and their diagnosis is rather grim. ‘A good deal of modern American culture,” they write, “is an extended experiment in the effects of depriving people of what they crave most.’

   And an experiment in how much they will pay for those cravings.
   1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 4:11 pm

      To compensate, Americans are then given a lot (or way too much) of what they crave the second or third most.

      That’s how we the number one in consumption (or up there with the most consuming nations).

      It’s as if when we can’t marry the one we love, we compensate by getting a harem, like the sultan.
      1. Summer August 13, 2018 at 4:29 pm

         There was an article about online dating. Statiticians are saying people hunt for people approximately 25% more attractive (whether in looks, perceived status or both not sure) than they are.
         Of course, these perceptions are often fed by what is seen in the media and many people deny this to their core. They fully believe they are fulfilling their own desires.
         1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 4:34 pm

            Does it mean ‘go-getters’ go for more than 25%?

            Unless one is a perfect 10 go-getter – in that case, 25% more attractive is not possible, not even 1% more attractive.
            1. Summer August 13, 2018 at 6:24 pm

               With that study, I guess they were just trying to quantify a form of social climbing.
               Who knows if it can be without constant revisions due to social trends. Trends appear very important to a type.
            2. wilroncanada August 13, 2018 at 6:50 pm

               OH Lord, it’s hard to be humble.
               1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 7:52 pm

                  11 > 10.
   2. clarky90 August 13, 2018 at 4:14 pm

      “ADL H.E.A.T. Map (Hate, Extremism, Anti-Semitism, Terrorism) is the first-of-its-kind interactive and customizable map detailing extremist and anti-Semitic incidents around the nation. ADL experts in its Center on Extremism developed this unique visualization with data points extracted from information sources including news and media reports, government documents (including police reports), victim reports, extremist-related sources, Center on Extremism investigations and more.

      Filter data sets and learn more about hate, extremism, anti-Semitism and terrorism in your area and around the country.”

      an example;

      “White Supremacist Propaganda
      7/25/2018
      Edison, NJ
      Right Wing (White Supremacist), Identity Evropa, an alt right group, distributed flyers that read: “Our Future Belongs to Us.” They also posted stickers featuring their group logo……”

      https://www.adl.org/heat-map
      1. Philip August 13, 2018 at 9:29 pm

         So, no snark tag, I’ll assume you are serious?

         I call bullshit. ADL (and SPLC) are “operators”.

         Please do yourself a favor and watch this documentary, made by a born and raised Israeli, not that that should matter…

         “Defamation” – An Israeli’s examination of the ADL and anti-Semitism
         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShGYvxz7zHI

         Philip
9. flora August 13, 2018 at 2:56 pm

   re: That which people most crave are the elements and effects of love — hospitality, community, solidarity — a general feeling of belonging and appreciation coupled with the exercise of moral agency for the benefit of other people. Thomas Aquinas defined love as ‘actively willing the good of the other.’”

   Hard to achieve internal effort toward community in this The Century of The Self *, where advertising blares that we need only consider our own desires and whatever we desire is good; that happiness lies in purchasing goods. It’s a perfect psychological counterpart to the economic neoliberal, “economic man” theory – a man who seeks to maximize his own personal satisfaction above all else. “Economic man” is a mythological creature, of course. Bernays and advertising have a lot to answer for, imo.

   * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self
10. Carolinian August 13, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    Counterpunch has a coupla good articles on the fires.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/13/we-know-how-to-protect-homes-from-wildfires-logging-isnt-the-way-to-do-it/

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/13/california-waging-war-on-wildfire/
    1. Steve H. August 13, 2018 at 3:34 pm

       I learned how to build Monolithic Domes. They can withstand fires, tornadoes too.

       But they can’t withstand the real estate market. Can’t compare if it ain’t square.

       And having a lonely home in the middle of devastation is not so good neither. Happened to a friend in Katrina, a five house cluster survived with nothing else nearby. They stayed and crackhouse moved in next door.
       1. Darius August 13, 2018 at 6:24 pm

          You don’t need something exotic. A metal roof instead of a wooden one. A rock garden around the house instead of flammable shrubs under the eaves. This all apparently violates US cultural norms. Fire is incompatible with private property apparently.
          1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 6:41 pm

             Rock garden vs. plants that absorb carbon.

             What about underground homes, with trees where the homes would have been?
       2. ambrit August 13, 2018 at 6:28 pm

          We had something like that happen before Katrina. A new, and only, crack house in our hood ‘mysteriously’ burned down in the middle of a balmy spring day. The VFD was a quarter mile away and took 45 minutes to respond. No one complained.
          1. Steve H. August 14, 2018 at 6:51 am

             When out-of-state cars began having people make runs to a nearby house while they parked a block away, I tried the right way and the police wouldn’t call me back. A journalist suggested it might be out of their hands, since interstate crime is federal, and I realized our neighborhood was being sold out for someone’s career. While I was researching the issue, the nearest thing I found to something working was a full neighborhood watch with evidence being created, but even that ran into lack of prosecutor resources. And there was more than one house that burned, and one of those was acknowledged as arson’d by a neighbor.

             The drug dealers moved on, now it’s got latino workers, more living there than rooms in the building. But they are very good neighbors.
             1. MaxFinger August 14, 2018 at 8:07 am

                Post Katrina neighborhoods are vastly different. Rents are way out of line because of low wages. People are living together in crammed, scarce rental apartments/houses, because it is the only way to live on low wages.
                Seems to be for the benefits of the out of town AirB&B landlords that only care about extraction.
                Disaster Chaos!
                1. ambrit August 14, 2018 at 9:49 am

                   Never let a good crisis go to waste.
                   On the Mississippi Gulf Coast, the primary result was the accelerated gentrification of the entire Coast, both ‘Official,’ through zoning mainly, and unofficial, through rent gouging and ‘enhanced’ wage suppression.
11. anon y'mouse August 13, 2018 at 3:08 pm

    the trucking industry is aranged in similar fashion as Uber/lyft. and they did it with lobbying, deregulation, de-unionization….

    and without apps.

    seriously, look into it.

    or i could try to blather on about it.
    
    1. Lambert Strether Post authorAugust 13, 2018 at 4:18 pm

       > or i could try to blather on about it.

       Do blather, please!
       1. ambrit August 13, 2018 at 6:32 pm

          Something must be very wrong with the trucking industry now. The evidence is all the ‘Truck Drivers Wanted! Sign Up Bonus!’ ads that have been in the local shoppers and State Employment webpages. Jobs going unfilled in a field is a sign.
       2. anon y'mouse August 13, 2018 at 7:10 pm

          part II, after late day coffee infusion.

          ok, so previously i spoke about the so-called shortage of drivers, and how you are indentured into working, and the general working conditions. ok, so you are essentially being given 100k pounds of death-dealing machinery, and charged to run it 1700miles across the country (or wherever. interspersed with longer runs are shorter hops) and get it there in time. you are paid by the mile. if you use your fuel wisely, sometimes a few extra cents are tacked on as a kind of bonus. the general equation for saving fuel is running slower (covering fewer miles). your bonus and your pay are somewhat at odds with each other. sometimes your truck is regulated to only go up to a certain speed anyway. nearly every trucker hates those, for obvious reasons.

          what you are not usually paid for (there are some exceptions). time fueling. time loading/unloading trailers onto or off the tractor, or time waiting for delivery products to be loaded or unloaded from trailers while backed into docks. time performing multiple equipment safety checks, and sometimes making necessary (minor) repairs. time waiting for a new tire when one gets blown, or waiting for serviced, or having your truck & trailer cleaned, and your trainer washed out and swept (generally you are supposed to drop them ready to go for the next journey, which in cases of refrigerated trailers means making sure they have their own fuel full up–also unpaid time). time waiting in offices of the places you are picking up from or dropping to to deal with paperwork. time taking calls, messages etc. from dispatch and dealing with paperwork and logs.

          essentially, unless your company is enlightened about some things (like offering you detention pay, where they start giving you money if you wait around to get your shipment loaded over a certain amount of hours, or sometimes i guess if the truck is being serviced?). some companies also offer a “minimum weekly pay” if they just don’t have the business to keep you rolling, which is admittedly better than not paying you at all. if the truck is not moving you are not getting paid. and this only applies to employees. if you are a leased-operator (which i know less about but am doing research on), or an owner operator, you might be moving and still effectively not being paid depending upon how good of a businessperson-entrepreneur you are.

          remember–you have 11hours of driving time you can legally do in any one day (but 14 hours of work time). i still don’t understand all of the intricacies of this, but what i gather is that you spend a LOT of your time that you could be driving doing all of the waiting around i spoke about above, while your available hours run down to nothing which means NO PAY FOR YOU TODAY. because people shipping and receiving items do not pay for this time, and because your company does not pay you for this time, there is essentially little incentive beyond the desires of whoever runs the warehouse/dock to be efficient at this part of the process.

          truckers seem to refuel (and eat, and attend *cough* nature) on their half hour mandated breaks, and then do whatever else when they drink their morning coffee, or as they are changing trailers or whatever. if they need to do something for themselves, they will only be able to do this at the end of the driving day, AND if they are lucky enough to have found somewhere to do it. think about all of the stuff you would do if you went home from work at the end of the day–laundry, showers, meal prep and eating, paying bills and dealing with personal business, etc. i have no idea how any of these people get actual medical and dental issues taken care of, and the majority gain vast amounts of weight doing a stressful job while remaining essentially totally sedentary for 11+hours every day. very few truck stops have any kind of fitness equipment, and many are in very crime-ridden areas and so are unsafe just to go jogging around for exercise. trucking companies will try to tell you that you can be home weekly, or every few weeks so you can get your personal life dealt with. really, you are out there until you beg to go home and then, if business is flowing, that might get pushed back by your dispatcher or you might choose to keep rolling for obvious reasons. you bank one day off for every week out, or something like that with the understanding that they are to be used “whenever” (no matter what they actually say). the person i live with has been home twice and gone 3 months during this time, and his first two weeks were in the company training “school” during which he was getting no pay. when he got onto a truck for the first road training, he started getting some kind of weekly rate. that lasted a few weeks as well. sometimes, they draw even THIS kind of payment (paid during training) against your future earnings, so you can be in the hole even more when you start “actually” working.

          please, anyone with clarifying or correcting knowledge, DO join in.
          1. anon y'mouse August 13, 2018 at 8:38 pm

             part I got ettin’ (ate).

             so how is this like Uber, you may ask? because many of these companies try to hook you very early in the game as a lease operator. you may have only being driving for a few months (heck, the pitch can begin as soon as you go to school as a kind of distant carrot). basically, you are induced through the logic of higher potential for earnings.

             what happens many times is that the company you are working for leases you a truck. you pay for the operating expenses, all maintenance, your own insurance and a million other things (in various ways. sometimes they set up various accounts for you and sometimes you are left to the details yourself). you are left to your own devices on taxes, business filings, how you deal with insurance of all kinds, how and how much you pay yourself. much of this is variable depending upon how they work the lease contract. but you are generally not able ot take that truck and work for anyone else. you work for them, and your dispatching to loads is controlled by them.

             what logic tells me is that they must be making money on both ends somehow, or there are many considerations which make supposedly paying drivers “more money” through these leases works out beneficially for them. if a company can make and take nearly all of the money for themselves, why would they not do so? what i am seeing is that the lease operators are used for overflow. these companies have employees and contractors doing the same job and paying them at different rates. essentially the lease ops pay for the truck out of their own income, and reports among truckers indicate that 8-9 out of 10 never walk away with full ownership of the truck. some walk away owing money to the company–so out a job, and out for the truck that they didn’t end up with. one has to be pretty savvy to not get robbed by the lease terms (which seem all different by company), and to keep a business operating when it is all in another company’s control.

             as i say, this seems to me to be similar to Uber: loads/passengers are booked through the company and the driver has very little control (lease ops can turn down jobs, but generally don’t because they need to make their payments on the truck and pay their bills). the company gets paid, and then passes along a cut to the driver. the cut can be a certain rate per mile (so, as opposed to employee drivers making 30-44 cents a mile, they offer the lease operator $1.03 and some kind of fuel refund which varies by agreement), or a certain percentage of the load pay.

             working conditions and lifestyle of lease operators are not all that much different than employees, but their responsibilities are significantly greater. you are essentially operating a business, and have to have your ducks in a row and deal with the legalities and taxes of that. many of these people have never been close to management in their lives, so one can imagine the failure rate. successful drivers are there to brag to you about their $2k+weekly net pay, and yet it is probably impossible to find out how many of them actually manage that rate. what i have determined is that successful lease operators (probably a small group) are making what the industry standard EMPLOYEE should be making in his normal job. this has been described by the more management-minded as getting the employee’s “skin in the game” but it is really a way to make an employee pay for a truck he likely won’t end up owning.

             i hope my initial post on the hiring process gets fished out, or i will try to recreate it. unless you don’t want to be bored with that.
             1. flora August 13, 2018 at 11:16 pm

                This is very interesting. I didn’t realized the Uber “gig economy” aspect, or the “company store” aspect exists in the trucking industry. Thanks for posting.
    2. anon y'mouse August 14, 2018 at 12:14 am

       to recreate what i posted in part I, which was about the hiring process.

       unlicensed new truckers are recruited by headhunters who seem to not really know anything about the business beyond what they are going to make out of the deal. i spoke with one myself and they certainly could offer little info beyond the employment offer conditions itself, and a kind of schedule to jump through the hoops. kind of like a slave broker, they deliver a bunch of folks who were working unsteady, ill paid jobs or who are at the end of their rope/ideas to make a more stable income into a trucking company’s hands. some individuals actually pay a private truck driving school to get their license, and then the company headhunters come to the school. at these schools, you are paying thousands to essentially learn to pass the DMV test for the license. your true education begins on the road, as dangerous as that sounds. same/similar process if you are hired directly with no prior schooling by a company–they put you through their internal schooling system. you are effectively charged for whatever training you receive by the company as an indentured servitude contract of about a year. in exchange for them providing you the training (which you can get at a community college for a few grand) they charge twice as much, and you agree to work at the lowest rates for one year. if you exit employment early for whatever reason (health, family, burnout from bad job conditions that approximate a moving jail cell that you drive yourself), they will bill you, put it on your credit, dun you with debt collection agents and supposedly, even blacklist you from trucking at other companies if possible.

       an interesting note about this training: it is discussed among truckers that the trucking schools are being given government money to keep training people for such a vital industry. it is said that trucking companies are sometimes effectively earning more from this situation of gov. grant training than they earn by the business, or are being kept afloat by the school end. some companies have the ability to test you for the license by their own people (perhaps making some more dosh that way? could be, but not sure). my disclaimer is that i have never worked in a trucking company, so do not know but it is also said that if you go to your local unemployment office, often they will pay for the retraining into your commercial driver’s license at the local community college.

       they will sway you with regular time off, high pay, and benefits. but you are theirs to drive OTR (“over the road=long distance trucking) for a year. if you try to get one of the supposedly decent trucker jobs (decent or sometimes even good pay, perhaps closer to home or even home every night)before about a year and a half, most companies will not hire you. it is said that this is due to the insurance rates. so, most people are forced to pay for their own training through this system of indenture, and get their training years out in a large company that can afford to take the hit should you mess up, and has the resources to go after you if you do flake out. so, you start out your trucking life financially in the hole, and with whatever ongoing bills you had from your life to sort out. some companies will pay you some kind of small stipend during the training period (can be up to one month, in the various phases) but this is supposedly also AGAINST FUTURE EARNINGS.

       now, the trucker shortage as i understand it: there isn’t one. there are thousands of people who have been through this system and no longer work in trucking, from what i understand. these people are a reserve labor pool. how do i know this? because supposedly turnover at trucking companies is 100% or higher every year. they basically train en masse for the eventual burnout and replacement of their current workforce, and are training continuously. everyone in trucking discusses this, “churn & burn” seems to be common knowledge. this suggests a large reserve supply of labor if conditions in the industry ever were to change, ready to drive down the rate of truckers driving if necessary. what does this imply? it means keeping your job is not only a matter of being safe, getting there on time but also how much you are willing to put up with.

       working conditions: you live in a truck smaller than a jail cell and have no bathroom. sometimes you have a microfridge and a microwave. you sleep in, eat in, dress & shave in (and some even try to exercise in, or cook in) the truck. you are out for weeks at a time. you should never assume you can get home in time for birthdays, holidays, or emergencies. some single people simply give up their apartments and succumb to the inevitability of living out of their trucks (sometimes hoping to save up for future expenses, like buying their own trucks). relationships with family and friends change and generally take a hit. if you want a divorce from your spouse, go into trucking. you are almost never paid, as a normal contractor in other fields would be, for your time and trouble to be away from your home. all costs to do so are your problem.

       truck stops are necessary, few and supposedly, not totally safe to be in. they are also full of overpriced and unhealthy food. some few have exercise facilities. they have showers and laundry machines (more paying out). essentially, there are very few rest stops left in this country where truckers can safely park. i see all of this diminishment of infrastructure, at a time when this industry is touted as so critical to the economy and in which every single thing we buy nearly has come off a truck, as very weird. especially since the almost-captive audience of truck drivers at truck stops sounds like a big money maker. are they, perhaps, preparing for the end of the truck driver (winding down operations) while they apply the screws to the employees at nearly every turn? i am a total cynic, and find that easy to believe.

       because of logs, the trucking company knows where you are and essentially what you are doing at all times. don’t cry about surveillance to a trucker. he is on a giant electronic leash, and has passed through serious government background checks to get there. this is not without all reason, as he has very expensive equipment and vital merchandise (sometimes outright dangerous merchandise, as in hazardous materials) under his care, so it behooves the company to know where he is. everything about that industry seems to happen under the eyes of government, in cooperation with the industry.

       oh–no one talks about unions at all. Teamsters are some distant exotic bird, and not a part of the discussion at all.

       i had a link in my very initial post, but they never show up somehow. search for Steve Viscelli’s The Big Rig discussion on u-tube. i think my initial comment was tripped by discussing the reported assaults on female drivers during their training phase, in which i used the “r” word. who knows?
       1. Steve H. August 14, 2018 at 7:13 am

          Good work, mouse.

          Clearly, Luber has failed an opportunity to offer discount auto sales to their victims.

          The point on the reserve labor force in trucking is notable, too.
12. DJG August 13, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    A Brief History of Milwaukee Avenue is good for its sense of the details of Chicago. I particularly liked the details of Chicago housing: the cottage, the bungalow, the graystone, the Sears house. These still exist. Most neighborhoods on the North Side are sprinkled with them.

    Chicago’s fairly regular grid layout means that the “diagonal” streets are valuable for getting around. I live near Clark, which is a rise that also was a path used by the Indian peoples (who would have been Ojibwe, Otawa, and Potawatamie in the main). Lincoln Avenue is handy for the same reason–and was a major pull for German immigrants.

    The writer didn’t cover an important aspect of Milwaukee Avenue: Funerals. Chicagoans are much concerned about funerals. In fact, there is a saying, He could screw up a two-car funeral.

    So funerals are even a gauge of economic efficiency and probity.

    Farther out are several large graveyards, as well as the restaurants where one holds the required funeral lunch after the funeral mass. When my aunt died a year ago, she decided that Przybylo’s, which has been one of the funeral-lunch-extraordinaire pierogieries, just wasn’t good enough. We were sent elsewhere. And even though my aunt was of Sicilian descent, we had a heavy Polish lunch. Those cutlets undoubtedly pushed each of us closer to the graveyard.

    And yet the Chicago that the writer portrays isn’t Rahm’s Chicago. I wonder why.
13. Oregoncharles August 13, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    ” is it really possible to defeat them without going onto their turf? Even if you control another street corner? I’m not so sure.”
    I’m not sure, either, nor of just what you mean by “going onto their turf” – but I’d remind you that their “turf” isn’t that large: about 30% of the electorate consider themselves Democrats. Independents, more like 40%, are a substantial plurality. Not that most people vote that way – but the real question is what would MAKE them vote for A Plague on Both Your Houses. There is also the huge reservoir of non-voters – again, a plurality or close to it. What would bring them out?

    I don’t think anyone really knows. The short answer would be “Hope,” which certainly worked for Obama. Once burned, twice shy. The other short answer might be unmitigated disaster. Though we already tried that in 2008.
    1. Lambert Strether Post authorAugust 13, 2018 at 4:31 pm

       > I’m not sure, either, nor of just what you mean by “going onto their turf”

       Merriam-Webster:

       turf (2) (a) : territory considered by a gang to be under its control

       In this case, the ballot, the Democrat Party being conceptualized as a crime syndicate. Lincoln said (and there’s an even more on point quote I just heard on the Civil War History podcast, but I can’t bring it to mind):

       As we say out West, if a man can’t skin he must hold a leg while someone else does.

       (Sorry for the brutality of the quote, but then politics, especially these days, is brutal.)

       I see Democrat Party entryists like AOC as “holding a leg.” They are rendering the Democrat Party immobile, or less mobile than it would otherwise be. (Like Grant held Lee immobile, while Sherman (and Sheridan) clawed the Slave Power’s guts out). They may provide real material benefits to the working class too, which is good, but not the ultimate point.)

       As far as the entity doing the skinning, that is yet to be determined. It’s not like there isn’t a demand. Gene Sharp’s final method is a propos:

       198. Dual sovereignty and parallel government

       One might, for example, envisage setting up a parallel voting system with paper ballots, on election day. With different items on the ballot, of course! A DSA ten times the current size could probably do this.

       That’s what I have in mind when I say I support an “inside/outside” strategy.

       Adding, in a way this idea requires Kerensky and Lenin, as it were, to work in tandem instead of opposition. But I think our situation is far more desperate than even Czarist Russia in 1917.
       1. John k August 13, 2018 at 5:25 pm

          Sounds bleak considering he, his family, and the nobility all died.
          Or inspiring, if this refers to the dem elites.
       2. Carolinian August 13, 2018 at 5:44 pm

          I’m not sure what you are saying but if you are saying Sanders is going to organize some kind of protest strategy at election time then he will never do that. He is a lesser evilist all the way. If he was going to separate himself from the Dem party then he would have done it already.

          And not to be gloomy but I’m not sure there is a solution to this rigged system–a way to unrig it. The duopoly has always been rigged to an extent. Only the disaster of the Great Depression put the two parties seriously at odds for awhile. Before that the dividing line was the slavery.

          Maybe we are drifting toward some kind of authoritarian government. The calls for impeachment show that the notion of elections as final arbiter may be regarded by younger people–along with politics itself–as somehow quaint and antique.
          1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 6:33 pm

             The situation is red, and urgent, and people are yearning for a teacher, a savior…not unlike that 2,000 or so years ago.

             And it is getting redder and more urgent…susceptible time for super-men.
             1. Carolinian August 13, 2018 at 8:24 pm

                The best thing I’ve read here lately about politics–have lost the link–told how the Labour party arose in Britain. It said they stayed clear of electoral politics at first and built an organization. The point was that you first need a substantial movement to break down ballot access restrictions and to have the media take you seriously. And example in this country might be the civil rights movement. Clearly though this is not a short term approach. Just as it took the civil rights movement decades to succeed it took Labour decades in Britain to finally win a majority and install a Prime Minister.

                Hoping the Dems will go the way of the Whigs may be forlorn. The Whig party of the 19th cent was formed in opposition to Jackson and was only around a few years. The Dems have been around a couple of centuries although they are now weakened The biggest party these days is the undecideds. They may just be looking for a name.
             2. Oregoncharles August 14, 2018 at 1:12 am

                That is not optimistic.
          2. ewmayer August 13, 2018 at 8:42 pm

             “Maybe we are drifting toward some kind of authoritarian government” — Per the Dems we’ve been living under the ever-more-tightly-closing iron fist of an authoritarian government headed by Vladimir Putin since Inauguration Day 2017, and all this dire authoritarian-ness is a brand new thing in the US which started just then.
          3. Lambert Strether Post authorAugust 14, 2018 at 11:39 am

             Sanders is on the inside. That’s what he does. It’s not a protest strategy any more than the Overland Campaign was a protest.

             Some other institution/entity will have to do the outside. DSA perhaps. There’s certainly a demand for it, has been since Occupy, and the demand will be met, one way or another.
       3. Oregoncharles August 14, 2018 at 1:27 am

          The analogy doesn’t quite translate for me. Might need a one-for-one translation. Part of the problem is that I’m used to thinking of the subject in a certain way, and have trouble putting myself into a different set of shoes.

          One problem is that the “major” parties’ control of the ballot is far from complete. E.g., there are 8 ballot-qualified parties in Oregon, and 3 “major” parties. There are a few states where new party ballot access is virtually impossible, but that’s unconstitutional and has been successfully challenged in court – in Georgia, by Dixon and McKinney, in particular.

          Following an article years ago on the Library of Congress website, which I don’t have a link to, I actually think the most important barrier to new parties is not legal, but habitual. It’s habit and the preconception that we have a “2-Party system,” which certainly was drilled into me in school. You can see the reflex all the time; criticize the Democrats, from the left!, and people think you’re a Republican. Either/or is a very easy way to think of the world. And of course, it’s very self-perpetuating, a classic self-fulfilling prophecy. Self-licking, if you will.

          How to cut the Gordian knot is something I think about a lot. I haven’t come up with a better answer than waiting for the PTB to drop the scepter, until power is rolling in the gutter. Which I think, and fear, might not be long.
          1. Lambert Strether Post authorAugust 14, 2018 at 11:43 am

             Yes, part of the problem in modeling the Democrat party is that the states play a big role, and it’s all insanely complex (complexity being a sign of fraud, at least in banking). That’s a very good point on the habit of binary thinking*; I’ll have to think about it. And start reading Ballot Access News again.

             On the PTB dropping the scepter, yes, I’m worried that will happen too soon. I’d rather have DSA running the show than the Proud Boys. A pro-banker ad house-broken Proud Boy has yet to emerge, but when they do….

             NOTE * Team sports is thought of as binary, but there’s a wonderful anecdote about the famously vociferous Boston Celtics fans. Boston had just lost in the semis to a great Philly team, so the Boston fans started chanting “Beat LA! Beat LA!”

             Now, if the liberal Democrats lost to Sanders, would their fans start chanting “Beat Trump”? I doubt it very much…
14. Enquiring Mind August 13, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    Apple product evolution, which is thinly-disguised planned obsolescence, amounts to another version of predation made up to be cool, hip and other adjectives currently acceptable. Some evilish geniusettes (as distinguished from true evil genii?) sit around conference tables dreaming up new ways to get users hooked. One proffers Dongle Again Move Now, another counters with the Software Happenstance Iteration Theme.

    Their plans are based on a bastardized version of the venerable bank customer profitability model: 80% of the customers make 120% of the profit, and the other 20% generate that 20% loss to even things up. Apple purchasers may fit into a similar schema, where 80% or whatever go along with all pronouncements emanating from the Magic Utopian Loopy Cupertino Torus, and there are those 20% who inhabit secondary markets, chat rooms, garage sales and other disreputable locales in search of used (shudder, used!) components, thereby not spending cash on new retail products and depriving true believer shareholders of material growth toward that second trillion. I ask you, does that seem fair?
    1. Carey August 13, 2018 at 3:32 pm

       Good stuff. The eternal credulity in techWorld regularly leaves me speechless.
       Too bad there’s so much collateral damage.

       [Singularity! Flying taxis! Rocket ships™ to Mars!]
15. temporal August 13, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    Apple’s 15 inch Macbook Pro

    With respect to Macbook Pros, iFixit has the 2012 non-retina being rated at 7 out of 10 for repair-ability. The Retina model for the same year and all subsequent Macbook Pros are 1 out of 10 – because iFixit doesn’t do zeros.

    Soldered RAM and storage with profuse amounts of glue for other stuff like batteries means lasting only as long as the first thing to fail.

    But hey, they’re thin!
    1. RMO August 13, 2018 at 11:41 pm

       Every single laptop I’ve ever owned has been an Apple – all 13 inch versions starting with a white plastic case model. When the one I’m currently typing this on packs it in I’m not going to replace it with another Apple. They’ve been going downhill for sometime and the company seems completely deaf to anyone with complaints, requests or suggestions as to how to make things better. Poor repairability isn’t that big a problem to me but there are so many other things Apple is dropping the ball on it all adds up to no more Macbooks for me.
16. Phillip Allen August 13, 2018 at 3:29 pm

    “Harder left elements scoff at DSA social events, but I think DSA is onto something.”

    I am involved in a food co-op start-up, one of dozens emerging across the country. One commonality across communities that co-op organizers are finding is a real and powerful desire for community. The most successful of us have learned that being in community is as much about simply having fun together as it is about more ‘serious’ activities. The start-ups that incorporate a strong social aspect to their organizing are growing more strongly than those who haven’t. I don’t see organizing a political movement as being any different.
    1. Oregoncharles August 13, 2018 at 3:55 pm

       We belong to, and usually shop at, a long-standing, quite successful co-op – it’s actually our corner store. Shopping there is a social event in a way that Safeway or Fred Meyer could never be. It’s difficult to get in and out quickly; a high proportion of both the staff and the customers are friends. And yes, that’s a good reason to shop there.

       It also holds social events, which I don’t usually attend, as I get my fill in the store. But it’s successful, so I think that’s a recommendation.

       On the political level, I was just at a “Solidarity Picnic” that’s a cross-fertilization event for the various strands of organizing here: Wobblies, Greens, DSA, student groups. Fun – and a good place to get petition signatures. Walking distance from my house, too. Yes, I think these are worth doing.
    2. Darthbobber August 14, 2018 at 1:13 am

       Harder left elements prefer an endless series of 5 to 7 hour line struggle sessions in search of that elusive theory that will become force when it grips the masses. And they wonder why recruits depart after a not terribly long time.
17. Oregoncharles August 13, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    ““D.C. officials, union criticize decision to use Metro to transport Jason Kessler and white supremacists to Unite the Right rally” ” So the white supremacists don’t know that the Metro is “Socialism”?

    I gather they were dwarfed by the counter-protestors, the price of holding their rally in a big city. And no violence, the way to do it – but partly because the police actually did their job.
    1. voteforno6 August 13, 2018 at 7:00 pm

       One thing that the D.C. police department is good at (besides handing out parking tickets) is crowd control – they’ve had a lot of practice.
18. Bill Smith August 13, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    “I don’t know how case assignments are handled at the FBI, but in retrospect, doesn’t putting Strzok on both these cases look a little odd.

    Wasn’t Strzok Chief of the Counterespionage Section? So the Russia thing fits? The Clinton might have been because they thought someone might have hacked Clinton’s server?
19. 3.14e-9 August 13, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    Good portrait of NY-22 race in this NYT article from last Thursday:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/nyregion/brindisi-tenney-midterm-election-ny.html

    Love the line about Tenney’s basking in the glow of Trump. No kidding! Her performance as Trump was leaving the SOTU was barf-bag worthy (I’ll see if I can find a link).

    Then this tweet from Brindisi:

    https://twitter.com/ABrindisiNY/status/1028756459016863744

    SOURCES: @RepTenney has told DC folks her Trump fundraiser is just like an “interview” —for a job with the Administration! What exactly is she running for?

    Meeeeeeeow!

    (Speaking of which, thanks for the repeat status report on Garden Cat and the great photo!)
20. 3.14e-9 August 13, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    Ha, Utica is trending on Twitter! Also look for #epicNY22protest and #TrumpInUpstate.
21. Quanka August 13, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    A shorter Siskind: Neo-Nazis are just fine in flyover country, BUT NOT IN DC!!! Oh the humanity.
    1. Big Tap August 13, 2018 at 5:13 pm

       So Amy Siskind only thinks now with Trump as president were having Neo-Nazi rallies. Had she ever heard of the proposed march through Skokie, Illinois? I remember this was a big story in the late 1970’s and even inspired a TV movie starring Danny Kaye. More recently, less than two years ago, in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania another protest. Both these incidents occurred during Democratic presidencies. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-neo-nazi-skokie-march-flashback-perspec-0312-20170310-story.html https://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/11/kkk_flags_fly_on_pa_capitol_st.html
    2. Darthbobber August 13, 2018 at 5:56 pm

       And not even flyover country. I went up from Philly to NY to participate in a couple of large countermobilizations to Nazi rallies there at the end of the 90s and the early aughts.

       There’s also been a by now almost traditional attempt of se Pennsylvania neos to rally in Fairmount Park on some faux Nordic pagan holiday. Always met by a much larger counterprotest and a police line that prevents too much scrumming before the oppressed neos depart with same comments about how misunderstood they are. Every year. Like the FA cup, but without the suspense.
22. Quanka August 13, 2018 at 4:05 pm

    Also: what happened to our horseman/mania-panic index?
    1. LarryB August 13, 2018 at 6:07 pm

       Went bye-bye along with Haygood, who annoyed Yves once too often.
23. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 4:25 pm

    Cool – ship shipping ship.

    It’s better than my museum-museum, a museum of museums.
    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 4:32 pm

       How many cheap computer programmers from the most competitive supplier-nations can live on one of those, cruising up and down the California coast, just outside of US jurisdiction (min. wage no applicable), doing work no Americans are willing to do?
       1. ambrit August 13, 2018 at 6:37 pm

          That should be: “Doing work no Americans are willing to do for free.”
          1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 6:44 pm

             That ship is big enough to be a sovereign country with its own currency.
             1. The Rev Kev August 13, 2018 at 7:48 pm

                I thought for a moment that that foto was digitally altered until I noticed that on top of one stack of ships was a row of what looked like superstructures to go on each ship. I’ll be damned.
24. Ancienr1 August 13, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    The cat photo. Noticed the brick wall behind the car and saw some sprawling on face of brick (paint?), green coloring in places – especially at base of wall at paving joint. This might be implication of moisture in the wall. Might want to check this out. Are there issues on the interior surface? Sorry to interject this comment. Habits of an old architect. We never die. We just erase ourselves.
    1. Lambert Strether Post authorAugust 13, 2018 at 4:37 pm

       This is actually the wall of the building next to me, but I will inform them. Bad foundations are bad.

       Once again, the NC commentariat is the best commentariat. You have enabled me to do a neighborly thing.

       But “sprawling”?
       1. Stephen V. August 13, 2018 at 5:55 pm

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spalting

          MAYBE? I dunno…
       2. BobW August 13, 2018 at 8:33 pm

          Maybe “spalling?”
25. perpetualWAR August 13, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    So, this is regarding the Democrat Party and the purity tests of yore:

    I recently got into an email conversation with another WA homeowner losing his home. He found out I had to move after my loss. This is what he sends to me after telling me to vote for Lisa Brown:

    “While I agree that Obama could have, should have handled the bank crises different, including the appointment of Holder as AG, but he was not responsible for Trump. Obama was no reason to not vote, or to vote for the worst human to ever run for the Presidency. We never have the choice between someone who is flawed an someone who is pure. No one is that pure. We must make the choice between the two that will represent us. In the 5th congressional race, you can vote to keep a really bad Representative, or a person that is not perfect but much better. Even more important is regaining the majority in the House. Voting for a third party is a vote for McMorris. So, I hope you will think about the big picture, and the future of the U.S. and not let the disappointments of the past ruin the future.”

    My response:
    “Sorry, I disagree. Brown could have and should have spoke up. She could have, at the very least, met with me. She knew how I was shaking things up and chose to ignore. She is not a good person.
    Obama allowed the bankers to steal our homes. He is not a good person. Them’s the facts as I know ’em. BTW, I didn’t “not vote.” And I didn’t vote Trump. I voted for Bernie Sanders. After the 2016 Democrat primary fraud, I am now Independent and not strictly towing the Democrat line. It is my opinion they gave us Trump. Had they not aced-out the real winner of the primaries, Bernie, who would have won, we would be talking about reigning in the bankers, single payer health care and reigning in out-of-control student debt. There would be no President Trump.

    It is also my opinion that Obama was a good Republican president. He was for big Business. He was not a good President who promised Hope & Change. IMHO, he was a horrendous president. I hold him responsible. What did he say, “the bankers did nothing illegal only immoral.” He is horribly wrong there.”

    No more communication after that response. I am absolutely floored that someone going through what I went through, unlawful foreclosure, cannot see that the Democrats did nothing to stop the crimes!
26. John k August 13, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    …is it really possible to defeat them without going on their turf…
    Remember the whigs. Gone in four years.
27. bob k August 13, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    note to imbecile siskind: do some f*cking research before you shoot off your tweets. you might have found this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/17/the-day-30000-white-supremacists-in-kkk-robes-marched-in-the-nations-capital/?utm_term=.6aaa9876874c

    its in the WAPO. that’s a paper you might have heard of/
    1. clarky90 August 13, 2018 at 8:14 pm

       It is Neo-Revisionist History. “Hey Presto!”, the KKK is now (because we say it over and over and over again) a Republican Organization! (No, the KKK is a Democratic Party Creation. Look it up!)
28. lyman alpha blob August 13, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    RE: we didn’t have neo-Nazi rallies until Trump took office

    Is this person serious?!?!? Funny, I thought I remembered myself and a few thousand other people protesting against one about a dozen years ago, but the Resistance! knows best so I guess that must have been some other people or maybe we were all at some bizarro demented rave.

    Ferchrissakes, she’s never heard of Skokie to name just one prominent example? Or the fact the some heavy hitters in the US supported the actual Nazis back in the day? Or burning crosses on lawns for decades?

    Did Trump’s election lobotomize this whole group of people so they have no memory prior to 2016?
    1. MyLessThanPrimeBeef August 13, 2018 at 5:57 pm

       Trump is their illegal space alien.

       In the sense that all those UFO sightings are, check that, were our own psychic projections.
    2. clarky90 August 13, 2018 at 6:34 pm

       Senate Democratic leader, Robert C. Byrd, (“cough, cough, cough..”)

       Ku Klux Klan members in United States politics

       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics

       “Historian Eric Foner observed: “In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party…”

       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
       1. RMO August 13, 2018 at 11:56 pm

          “Is this person serious?!?!?” Yes. That’s what astonishes me. Or at least it would have a few years back. By now this sort of foolishness is pretty commonplace.
29. dcblogger August 13, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    Young People Are Registering to Vote in Huge Numbers, New Study Finds
    In some battleground states, 18-to-29-year-olds now make up a far greater percentage of new registrants.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/young-people-are-registering-to-vote-in-huge-numbers-new-study-finds/
    1. Carey August 13, 2018 at 6:01 pm

       Wonder who they’ll vote for, and if that person will work toward a Common Good.
       1. perpetualWAR August 13, 2018 at 7:11 pm

          “work toward”
          “fighting for”

          Same thing.
          1. Carey August 13, 2018 at 8:56 pm

             But I meant what I said, unlike the Demorats.
          2. Oregoncharles August 14, 2018 at 1:01 am

             That’s the language of a party out of power, because without the votes, that’s all they can do. If it’s coming from a party IN power, as the Dems were when Obama took office, then it’s a blatant tipoff that they’re scamming you.
30. bob k August 13, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    as i recall, ms siskind, president woodrow wilson was fond of the KKK
31. David Carl Grimes August 13, 2018 at 5:28 pm

    I was wondering if Medicare for All will make it easier to hire older workers. Why? Because of reduced healthcare costs. Healthcare insurance premiums for older workers are higher, which might deter companies from hiring. Or is this a minor factor in the overall hiring decision.

    Would others care to chime in?
    1. ambrit August 14, 2018 at 1:05 am

       At the lower end of the wage scale, company medical is a nonexistent benefit. When it is offered now, so much is dumped back on the worker, through premiums, co-pays and the rest, that many throw their hands up in surrender and wait for the ‘Corporate Grim Reaper’ to pay a visit.
       One major reason older workers are denied employment now is the sheer brutality of the work pace presently demanded from the workers. The older workers are physically not up to the demands. Also, the older workers are more experienced and will push back at the myriad of outrageous demands made on them. Management loves the younger, generally easier to fool cohort.
       As an example of ‘easier to fool’, I append the following. In the middle of my construction career, I was once tasked with working up a materials and labour bid for the mid-sized shop I was working for. (This was on the Louisiana Gulf Coast.) The front office manager called me in and pointed at a line in the labour figures.
       “What is this extra ten percent in here for?”
       “It’s for screw ups, rainy days, flu season absenteeism, and other things that will eat up time on any job.”
       “Where do you get off telling me that you have done this before? Screw ups? This company doesn’t do ‘screw ups!'”
       “Well, then this is the first perfect company i have ever worked for.”
       “Get the H— out of my office! Idiot!”
       I did not last long there.
32. Darthbobber August 13, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    Hawaii 2nd. I saw Gabbard squeaked through with only 83.6% of the vote. Tough race, that. The most interesting story I saw on that campaign Was The Hawaii Education Association deciding to endorse her opponent. Interesting only because it shows how certain people operate. The HEA pres said explicitly that they had “no problem” with Gabbard on education issues, but based their decision purely on what they frame as Human Rights, but which I would call foreign policy. Specifically that she had supportive things to say about Assad and Sisi. How normal is it for Teacher’s unions to base their politics on foreign policy concerns? Glad you asked. I’m unaware of any other case.

    So i’d be asking what was really going on here, if I didn’t already know.
    1. The Rev Kev August 13, 2018 at 8:03 pm

       That is one ugly story that. I would guess that that teacher’s union got their marching orders from the democrat party in Hawaii who have a track record of hating her. Then again, we have seen stories very recently how teacher’s unions on the mainland are selling out their own members and are siding with big power. This may be more of the same.
33. Lupemax August 13, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    “Negotiators from the U.S. and Mexico are entering their fourth week of resumed NAFTA talks as they push to wrap up the remaining bilateral issues – namely the automotive rules of origin, which have been one of the biggest sticking points in the renegotiation. But while Mexican Economy Secretary Ildefonso Guajardo has repeatedly said their teams are ‘making a lot of advancements,’ the talks haven’t progressed far enough along to invite Canada’s team back to the negotiating table” [Politico].
    ******************************************************************************************

    Excellent (dare I say optimistic) interview with Lori Wallach expert (Global Trade Watch Director, Public Citizen) on NAFTA negotiations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yxtZo9Js-E&feature=em-uploademail

    Love your garden cat!!
34. Lemmy Caution August 13, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    RE: Democrates seek stronger social media presence to guard against potential Russian interference in midterms.

    I can’t wait to see to results of the DCCC’s strategy, which relies on staffers and volunteers to “craft” messages on Facebook, Twitter and other platforms. Emboldened after mastering the art of political sloganeering, they’re ready to take on Vlad’s minions. (“Craft” is another one of those red flags, isn’t it?)
    1. ambrit August 14, 2018 at 1:11 am

       The DCCC really needs to hire AIPAC to teach their minions proper Hasbara technique.
35. Elizabeth Burton August 13, 2018 at 6:55 pm

    we didn’t have neo-Nazi rallies until Trump took office

    Of course we did. They were out holding rallies in lots of places, and no one cared because unless they did something harmful they were dismissed as the poseurs they mostly are.

    Since they weren’t useful to the establishment and its media mouthpieces, they were ignored, except as handy villains in fiction and film when a prison scene was needed. Like the many protests by progressive and other “leftie” organizations are going ignored now unless they’re to counter the neo-nazis. Keeping the public ignorant is what corporate media do best, and if you haven’t been around long enough to have watched them do it over and over you won’t notice.

    Notice how all the coverage of the dreadful non-rally in DC distracted everybody from the fact US-made rockets provided by the US to the Saudis butchered more than 50 children under the age of 15? Worked a treat. And some slug from MSNBC who spent a whole two minutes looking bereft 45 minutes into a broadcast becomes a social media hero for mentioning it in passing.

    Nothing says real concern like making the story about the guy who read it off the teleprompter instead of dead and bleeding children.
    1. bob k August 13, 2018 at 7:19 pm

       “Of course we did. They were out holding rallies in lots of places, and no one cared because unless they did something harmful they were dismissed as the poseurs they mostly are.”

       i have to disagree, strongly. already mentioned was the march in largely Jewish Skokie that brought out 1000s of protestors. i was in ohio in the 70s and everytime the Klan called a rally they were met with great crowds and there were fights. sometimes they were standoffs, like one i was at in the ohio country near dayton. another, in columbus, was just ridiculous. the Klan Grand Wizard was standing on the steps of a public building. his speech was howled at and drowned out by 100s of protestors. they were right up in his face. finally, one of the protestors hauled off and punched the racist bastard. it was over pretty fast.

       this was the 70s and there were still the vestiges of a once vibrant left. and there were plenty of people who hated racism and didn’t particularly feel the right to free speech meant the right to spread hate. this from the group that was formed to “restore” the glory of the South, the group that woodrow wilson so admired.

       maybe that’s just me and my experience from the 70s. but people cared. they cared deeply when these scum came out.
       1. Elizabeth Burton August 13, 2018 at 7:38 pm

          And most of the people now screaming about the alt-right and racism weren’t even born in the ’70s—or at most just barely. How many rallies like the one in Skokie have you seen covered in the last four decades? And let us not forget that one drew that a crowd mostly because the media made a point of demonizing the ACLU for defending the bad guys’ right to march. Otherwise, nobody would have heard about it.

          Because the ACLU was also defending civil rights workers and Black Panthers, so they needed to be demonized.

          I wasn’t talking about protest. I was talking about the media coverage of same. Which didn’t consider neo-nazi, racist, etc., rallies worthy of notice until November 2016. Where I used to live the KKK had (and as far as I know still has) an entire campground where they can hang out and talk trash. Bet you didn’t know about that. It’s in upstate Pennsylvania.

          So, the media are now presenting the situation as if this is something that only sprang up newborn from the head of Trump, which is handy for keeping the outrage level not only high but directed at acceptable targets.

          I have a friend who’s been an avid protester as long as you have, and I had to alert him to an anti-war rally near him because it and the numerous others held one weekend last fall got zero coverage either before or after. Another acquaintance was totally unaware there were almost weekly protests going on about immigration, M4A, and the other important issues.

          The “alt-right” is this decades “terrorist enemy.” It’s being used to channel people’s focus so the homegrown terrorists in Congress and the corporations can go on doing damage. I’m not saying it doesn’t need watching, and there’s no question its membership is increasing. Isn’t the real question, though, why, if they’re such a danger to all we hold dear, the establishment doesn’t seem interested in doing anything constructive about it?
          1. Darthbobber August 14, 2018 at 1:16 am

             Nyt always found them worth covering as long as Sharpton was involved with part of the counter demonstrations.
36. Wukchumni August 13, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    ‘A good deal of modern American culture,” they write, “is an extended experiment in the effects of depriving people of what they crave most.’ That which people most crave are the elements and effects of love — hospitality, community, solidarity — a general feeling of belonging and appreciation coupled with the exercise of moral agency for the benefit of other people.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    One thing i’ve noticed about us, is we don’t do a lot of physical things together so much anymore, and dancing in particular.

    We were @ the annual music in the mountains concert a couple days ago in Mineral King, and 4 out of about 90 attendees strutted their stuff on the floor, and i’ve seen similar lack of dance steps in other venues elsewhere as well.

    When I was a kid in L.A., there were dozens of ice skating rinks around, now down to a few.
37. BobWhite August 13, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    … the DNC ‘will continue to welcome the longstanding and generous contributions of workers, including those in energy and related industries, who organize and donate to Democratic candidates individually or through their unions’ or employers’ political action committees.’

    They really had to do some contortions to equate “contributions of workers” to “employers’ PACs”
    Like Wal-Mart workers are the same as the Walton family…
    Or Amazon workers = Jeff Be-elzebub-zos
38. Wukchumni August 13, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    So the money is buying squillioanaires walled compounds in New Zealand.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
    Pā?

    In Māori culture, a great pā represented the mana (prestige or power) and strategic ability of an iwi (tribe or tribal confederacy), as personified by a rangatira (chieftain). Pā are located in various defensible locations around the territory (rohe) of an iwi to protect fertile plantation sites and food supplies.

    Almost all pā are found on prominent raised ground, especially volcanic hills. The natural slope of the hill is then terraced. Dormant volcanoes were commonly used for pā in Auckland. Pā are multipurpose in function. Pā that have been extensively studied after the New Zealand Wars and more recently were found to safeguard food and water storage sites or wells, food storage pits (especially kūmara), and small integrated plantations, maintained inside the pā. Recent studies have shown that in most cases, few people lived long term in a single pā, and that iwi maintained several pā at once, often under the control of a hapū (subtribe). The area in between pā were primarily common residential and horticultural sites.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%81
    1. cnchal August 13, 2018 at 9:55 pm

       > So the money is buying squillioanaires walled compounds in New Zealand.

       When the diesel generator’s crank seizes, are the squillionaires going to get their hands oily or take the shackles off the dog zap collared diesel mechanics they keep in the dungeon for emergencies?
39. Michael August 13, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    88 comments and no aspen rebuttal?
    Not aspens…

    Spalling…”Spalling—sometimes incorrectly called spaulding or spalding—is the result of water entering brick, concrete, or natural stone. It forces the surface to peel, pop out, or flake off. It’s also known as flaking, especially in limestone. Spalling happens in concrete because of moisture in the concrete.”
40. The Rev Kev August 13, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    “That which people most crave are the elements and effects of love — hospitality, community, solidarity — a general feeling of belonging and appreciation coupled with the exercise of moral agency for the benefit of other people.”

    I think that in that one sentence we have the key to the success of social media, particularly Facebook. People are denied these bonds in normal life and social media offers an approximation of what they have lost. Quite poignant really that until you understand the price of seeking human relationships via an electronic screen is to sell out those very same human relationships to corporate business. How about a song for our present age-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0gpPs4flw8
41. pretzelattack August 13, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    maybe “artisan propaganda”, handcrafted at home on a piecework basis, is the next one.
42. Richard August 13, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    I have a weird, detail oriented question, and I figured this was the place to take it. Okay. assuming a third party were to win legislative seats at the federal level, how would committee assignments be handled? Now I believe the two parties just divide all the seats on each committee with whatever advantage to the party in power. And when new legislators arrive, each party distributes open seats within their party.
    How would this work with a significant (say 20%) block of third party legislators? Especially when they first arrive! I’ve always been amazed by how undemocratic and yet unchallenged the existing committee system is (in terms of deciding who serves where).
    1. Oregoncharles August 14, 2018 at 12:52 am

       I think it might be very entertaining to find out.

       In practice, the few Independents there’ve been caucused with one major party or the other; but that wouldn’t happen if they were 20%. A bloc like that could be kingmakers, deciding who’s in charge, so the discussions might be quite interesting. Sort of like Germany the last time, or Italy. A whole new thing in American politics.

       The short answer is that nobody knows. Having observed the effects of joining coalitions on European Green Parties, I would advocate staying out of one and keeping that free-agent, kingmaker position. But then the old parties might freeze them out of committees.

       A further consideration is the conditions under which that might happen: it would be a near-revolution, a thorough realignment of the party system, so all bets would be off anyway.
43. Wukchumni August 13, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    According to immigration officials and attorneys, there has been an increase in recent years of Indian nationals crossing into the U.S. through Mexico — although they represent a small percentage of those detained overall. Indian citizens are among thousands of migrants from Haiti, Africa and Asia now trekking across Latin America, taking advantage of travel routes forged by Latino immigrants.

    By early August, about 380 of the 680 migrants at the Victorville facility were Indian nationals, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, sent there as civil rather than criminal detainees pending the outcome of their immigration cases.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-indian-immigrants-20180813-story.html
44. 3.14e-9 August 13, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    Trump’s speech in Utica, file under “Kill me now,” NOW. No, kill me five minutes ago, before I started watching.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwypJbQJLsU

    First 22 minutes are audience shuffling about, waiting for Tenney. Trump comes on at 24:34 and almost immediately launches into a bizarre diatribe about how state taxes could have been cut to zero if New York hadn’t banned fracking — unlike Pennsylvania, which he says is doing great things with all the fracking revenues, while sucking away New York’s oil under the border. After that, he speaks to Chele Farley, says he knows her opponent (Gillibrand) well: “She’s been up to my office looking for campaign contributions.” WTF? Sorry, couldn’t stay with it. I skipped to the end, which is cut off in the middle of his speech. Pool camera forgot an extra SD card, or just couldn’t take anymore?

    Also wondering whether this was the reception. If so, it sure looks like there are a lot of filler attendees who didn’t shell out $1,000 for a ticket. Then, what I do I know? Them good ol’ boys in the co-op hats might be wealthy soybean farmers …
    1. Hameloose Cannon August 13, 2018 at 10:02 pm

       Yes, having an imbecile* as the head of state brings a nation one stumble closer to the dream of having the state wither away, a delusion so dearly held by both Marxists and Libertarians. *Fernald, Walter. “The Imbecile with Criminal Instincts”. The American Journal of Insanity, 1909.
45. The Rev Kev August 13, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    That image of Apple’s multiple port cords when they can eliminate the ports themselves from their laptops resulting in people having to have multiple cords jacked into their laptops. Would that be an example of ‘externalizing the costs’?
46. knowbuddhau August 14, 2018 at 12:38 am

    >>>That which people most crave are the elements and effects of love — hospitality, community, solidarity — a general feeling of belonging and appreciation coupled with the exercise of moral agency for the benefit of other people.

    I love that. But that’s all I like about it, sad to say. I’m always leery of psychiatrists. Their generalizations often vastly exceed their samples. Anymore, though, I’m asking the same question of all such reports: show me your data. The only hint is “individuals with depression.”

    So I searched the title, The Lonely American: Drifting Apart in the Twenty-First Century and found it on Good Reads.

    More reason not to be impressed. I’m not saying loneliness isn’t bad; of course it is. I get more than I’d like, tbh. But too often lately, plausible propositions don’t work the way they’re said to.

    Psychiatrists look very, very closely at individuals. Like, down to molecular level. I’ll buy they’re observations, but not their explanation.

    Here’s why I’m leery of psychiatrists: “[L]oneliness appears to be the inevitable byproduct of our frenetic contemporary lifestyle.” That’s it? No class war? No destruction of unions, no privatization and crapification of everything under the sun, no “individual” mandate for crap policies designed not to deliver health care, just profits for the people “trickling down” on us, no war as a national way of being in the wider world ever since day1?

    Too many trees, not enough forest.

    Nevertheless, I do believe wholeheartedly that hospitality is one of the great redeeming virtues of humanity. As Tom Waits would say, I’m one of those in whose keeping the town is left as we’re sweeping up the ghosts of Saturday night. I just love making Way for others, you know, setting up something beautiful for others to find and enjoy forever, then just walking away.

    And there’s actually method to my madness. I find a lot of inspiration in this.

    In keeping with the Buddhist teaching of emptiness [self-emptying, at Abe and the Social Force of Zen, fourth paragraph],
    Gustavo Esteva (1987) has argued, for example, that development is not an answer to the needs of “the poor,” but rather a substantial threat to their present and fu-
    ture well-being. In fact, development thinking manufactures and “benignly”
    exports “poverty.” It creates classes of sometimes millions of people who
    must be given assistance “because” they are powerless to help themselves.
    As an alternative, Esteva suggests that strenuous effort must be made to
    reclaim the commons, displacing the economics of development, and cul-
    tivating instead an ethos of hospitality. In the absence of such a turn toward
    meaningfully intimate relationships and away from generic legalism, the
    influx of new goods and services will not be conducive to the realization of
    vibrant and resilient community, but only increasing dependence on these
    services and slavery to the living standards they implicitly impose.

    The criticism here is not, however, only that care must be taken not to
    help others for the sake of condescension. The teaching of [self-emptying] in-
    sists that equal care be exercised in avoiding the temptation to rationalize
    doing nothing for others or to argue that we all have to “pull ourselves up
    by our own bootstraps.” Such rationales and arguments are possible only
    on the condition that we ignore the meaningful interdependence of all things.
    Pulling ourselves up by our own bootstraps is impossible for the simple
    reason that none of us are — or could ever be — fully independent. But
    neither are we ever fully dependent. From a Buddhist perspective, we are
    not, have never been, and could never be simply-located, atomic individu-
    als existing or “standing apart” from one another in objective and purely
    factual time and space. The prejudice for taking ourselves most fundamen-
    tally to be ‘this’ and not ‘that’– to be privileged or not, to be in control or
    not — is, at bottom, a culturally sanctioned form of ignorance that induces
    both our factual segregation and our relational or narrative poverty.

    As an antidote for such dramatic prejudice, the Buddhist practice of
    [self-emptying] is conducive to realizing our horizonless continuity with all things
    in patterns of meaningful relationship that arise in a cosmos that is irreduc-
    ibly karmic — a cosmos in which the topography of our individual and
    shared experience meticulously conforms with our own values, and in which
    conflicts and their full resolution are always dramatic.

    In a karmic world, there are no clear horizons of responsibility, no
    objective warrants for disengagement, and no possibility of abstaining from
    involvement. In the absence of any absolute or non-contingent boundaries,

    Peter D. Hershock Journal of Buddhist Ethics 6 (1999): 168

    the root, moral question can never be whether we are implicated, but only
    “in exactly what way, and why?” In the absence of clear and ontologically
    fundamental boundaries between self and other, or between ‘this’ situation
    and ‘that’ one, any tensions between them must be seen as artifacts —
    albeit ones with often quite long and convoluted histories. The perennial
    conflict of freedom and duty — like that between the ‘good’ of persons and
    that of communities — is not an absolute given, but our own doing: a
    construct or product of our karma. Quite fortunately, our karma is always
    subject to revision.
    1. Carey August 14, 2018 at 1:29 pm

       I think “Reclaim the Commons” is excellent, and should go viral (as they say). Thank you.
47. Conrad August 14, 2018 at 2:29 am

    Proof that Randall Munroe is thinking on the same lines as Lambert regarding voting machines.

    (Apologies if someone has already posted this earlier)

    Hand marked paper ballots, handcounted in public are the superior technology!
48. DonCoyote August 14, 2018 at 11:18 am

    “A highly insecure digital dystopia”…

    “When a city has grown so overlarge and crowded that it is in immediate danger of collapse … when food and clean water flow into the city at a rate just sufficient to feed every mouth, and every hand must work constantly to keep it that way … when all transportation is involved in moving vital supplies, and none is left over to move people out of the city should the need arise … then it is that Crazy Eddie leads the movers of garbage out on strike for better working conditions.”

    –The Mote In God’s Eye

    And for the tl;dr and #NoSFReferences crowds, insecure + dystopia are Putin’s fault.

    Bonus non sequitur: I was at the airport yesterday watching corporate propaganda from Siemens about how they are leveraging the Internet of Things (IoT) to do something or other (the graphic was light rail). I am doubtful of the ability to leverage the IOT for much, unless you are in the bugfix or fertilizer business. Also, how did Siemens get the right to names MindSphere, MindServices, etc? Is there dignity left? (No). Paging Rene Descartes and Karl Popper…
49. Alfred August 14, 2018 at 11:26 am

    Aspen trees have white bark – trunks and rarely lateral branches of any size. But the trees are beautiful.

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