By Lambert Strether of Corrente.
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"Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues," Boston, January 14, 1974.? https://t.co/7RDQEwDeCf
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I wonder how the bill to fix Amerika is going?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-dc-pedestrian-bridge-collapse
who needs those pesky engineering safety regs! They just slow down growth!
That’s true and beside it happened in DC. Sad little country Amerika is.
A pedestrian bridge East of the Anacostia River. It might as well have happened in Honduras as far as Capitol Hill is concerned.
A dump truck was too tall and hit the bridge. The bill did just go up, but the bridge didn’t just fall down….
“Bridge 66 was inspected in February 2021 resulting in a May 25th inspection report giving the bridge a rating of poor condition.” He stressed that investigators’ findings were preliminary.”
You guys aren’t the only ones with problems:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214
Guard members, reservists more than twice as likely to be hungry than national rate: Census data [The Hill]
This will surely end well.
Tactics for a Cooperative Digital Commons w/ Evan Henshaw-Plath
Dylan live, even with the Band, is always a crap shoot. You never know what you’re going to get. But ‘Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues’ from 1965, one of his greats. Is there a better rock and roll record than ‘Highway 61 Revisited’?
No, there isn’t. And I think we’re past the era when one could possibly be produced.
Kid A?
I saw him many times. Bob had a tenancy to not pay much attention to his band. He would go into the studio and just grab anyone around. Charley Daniels being one that happened be playing a session gig and was asked if he could fill in down the hall. It was one of Charlie’s favorite stories to tell. I saw him on one tour with Tom Petty and band was the played for Bob as well as his opening act. It proved to be excellent. GE Smith and his band also toured with Bob as his band, Smith played some really excellent guitar and the shows were some of his best. Thanks to NC for the Bob song. Always makes my day.
By the way Quicksilver, Quicksilver Messenger Service was one of my faves back in the day.
Music is magic.
Nicky Hopkins!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-EZfNO5nAY
I don’t hear much Garth Hudson in that track, but man, Richard Manuel comes through beautifully!!
fav cover Tom Thumb’s Blues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3maDpn0TI4Q
“…steals your voice and leaves you howling at the moon…” acid trip for sure
fav QMS Bo Didley cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy_QKcmXkjg&list=PLtg6QhGBQvmcvQ572eQZhvm6osf56naq8&index=2
Bob Dylan is so intensely personal for me, life’s soundtrack, every phrase, every line. here’s another with video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9EKqQWPjyo
I will NEVER own an iPhone, so I am laughing
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9717571/Tim-Cook-called-Nancy-Pelosi-warn-rushed-antitrust-bills-hurt-innovation-customers.html
Whenever I hear some tech titan say that this-or-that will hurt innovation, I say, “Full speed ahead! Do it!”
Innovation will do just fine. It’s a tough little [family blogger] and knows how to rise to a challenge.
Arizona Slim
June 23, 2021 at 2:50 pm
Innovation. Like the most annoying thing ever – you press your car window and it goes all the way down before you can stop it. Than you press up to get it up part ways, and to goes all the way up to the top?
Or maybe all those phone trees that gives you all the choices like adding more services instead of dealing with an error the company caused?
Or soylent green.
My view is that 99.99 percent of “innovation” is making things worse…
I noticed the same thing with regard to so called innovation, it always over complicates the most basic things. I also hate when they improve something. It almost never works well for me again. I agree about the windows in the car. Drives me crazy.
Good one with the driver side window. That is a comic bit screaming to be told.
I agree that “innovation” is mostly useless property creation rather than value creation, but try using a lighter touch on that switch and you may find the normal down position that stops when released as you expect.
That said, I prefer invention, myself.
hunkerdown: Every car I’ve driven that has the one touch fully raise or fully lower the window has had a distinct “halfway” notch in the switch travel both down and up. Push or pull to that halfway position and they only raise or lower as long as you hold the switch deflected to that point, push or pull to the switch’s full travel and they go up or down all the way even if you release the switch immediately afterwards. I really don’t find it all that useful but a lot of people do which is why it has become almost universal. I’ve also never before heard of anyone having difficulty with using it.
Making things worse, but being counted as a “quality of life improvement” so inflation is undercounted.
Those hedonic adjustments don’t get as much attention as they deserve
We’re long overdue for a massive burst of Schumpterian ‘creative destruction’. Effective policing of antitrust could well be the trigger that kicks it off.
Heh.
The article doesn’t say what Cook’s “alleged” reply to Pelosi’s “reported” pushback was, but here’s a hypothetical –
“Nothing specific – but how does no further campaign contributions from Apple or any of the other tech companies we collude with sound, Ms. Creamsicle?”
I’d like to know who is reporting that Pelosi pushed back. That would tell us a lot. This issue seems to be what the Dems want to look like they’re championing but I think we all know they’re much better at “fighting for” rather than doing.
I think the push back will be more re-election contributions and hiring of DNC hacks who should return to the provinces hired as lobbyists (hacks). Google, Facebook, Twitter, themselves have gone out of their way to aid the DnC with the censorship, propaganda, and generally being on the side of the security agencies/DNC/mass media axis.
Pelosi’s iPhone suddenly gets “hacked” by
vikingblack hats in 3, 2, 1 …Apple might “innovate” this. You can ‘archive’ a message but there is no archive folder. I spent about one-half hour noodling to find where the heck a message disappeared to. I looked all over the place and discovered nooks and crannies and stuff and nonsense that I did not know existed. I would be happy with the phone, text, and camera … even just phone and text, I prefer a dedicated camera. I suppose there are people who speedily and happily navigate through the maze. I would like simplicity.
https://news.yahoo.com/rising-stakes-cdcs-vaccine-meeting-090007828.html
The rising stakes of CDC’s vaccine meeting about myocarditis cases
Something the CDC is not even looking at:
“As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance.”
Frankly, I expect better from by far the most expensive healthcare system in the world. Particularly given that according to my ME/CFS specialist, now treating long Covid patients, that this post-viral malady is striking who get infected but have mild or no symptoms. He also noted that he has had patients so ill they were on ventilators that arise from there sick beds free of long Covid symptoms. This sh*t just gets curiouser and curiouser.
If you want to be able to say ” there is no data” in the future, you carefully prevent the gathering of data in the present.
If you want to be able to say ” there is no evidence” in the future, you carefully sabotage and obstruct the gathering of evidence in the present.
That is what CDC is doing here, and that is why they are doing it.
The CDC meeting on myocarditis in vaccinated children (let’s do nothing, just keep an eye on it for 6 months) is currently in its public comment phase and the public comments are almost a wall-to-wall roasting of the bureaucrats. I wonder if they did a fair lottery to pick speakers, or if they didn’t and were unable to find enough supportive commenters. Doesn’t look like CDC is doing its job successfully (whether you think that job is to stop the vaccine based on the data, or whether it’s just to maintain the public’s confidence in whatever they do).
Lemmy Caution posted links to the CDC Decks at 11:16am in the comments to 6/23/2021 Links. The data is startling. They kept emphasizing that the kids “recovered.” Based on what I’ve read before and also on IM Doc’s comments, myocarditis can cause life long issues so even though their immediate symptoms have resolved, they may not be “recovered.”
I’ve noticed the press echoing “full recovery”.
From the article I posted above:
https://news.yahoo.com/rising-stakes-cdcs-vaccine-meeting-090007828.html
The cases have been primarily from teens and men age 30 and younger. Symptoms were usually mild, and the overwhelming majority of patients who were hospitalized with the condition — 81% — made a full recovery.
Myocardial cells are one of the types of cells in our bodies that are not readily reproducible. Other examples of this are brain and nerve cells. They just simply do not turn over.
There are organs that are made up of cells that are able to turn over but just do it when they absolutely need to – examples here would be the liver and all the endocrine glands.
Then there are parts of the body that turn over for a living daily and do so intensely – examples would be the skin and the lining of the GI system.
Because the myocardium does not reproduce itself, the amount of the initial damage from myocarditis is critical. FYI, the same thing happens in an acute MI – the dead part is just dead – and will forever be dead. The remaining undamaged tissue has the ability to “remodel” and take up some of the slack but the person will never have the same heart.
To sum it up – with these cases of myocarditis – it is unlike an MI in that the damage is not confined to one area. The damage tends to be global throughout the heart all at once. Recovery is absolutely dependent on how bad that damage is. If recognized and treated early – it is possible to mitigate the damage somewhat depending on what all is involved. Some patients recover reasonably well because the damage was just not that severe. However, many times in my life, I have seen these patients struggle with heart failure symptoms from the moment it happens. We can help this with meds to some degree – and the rhythm problems can be helped with meds and defibrillators – but the patients will never be the same.
I have been staggered by the reports I am reading from all over about these COVID vaccine young people – and the startling number of them that are having to be transplanted.
The very concerning thing – there are now hospitals all over America where there are more admissions to the hospital from this COVID vaccine related myocarditis than ever were with the whole 18 months of COVID. I am referring only to the 12-17 age group. NOT THE WHOLE POPULATION. Unfortunately, this now includes my hospital – with zero 12-17 aged COVID admissions this whole time – and we have now had our very first teen admitted critically ill with myocarditis 3 days after the 2nd shot.
I was on a Zoom conference yesterday about this issue – a very “elder statesman” ethics professor ended the discussion of this myocarditis issue and I almost started tearing up – our standards have fallen so far – he simply stated – the medical ethical principles of beneficience and non-harm are overwhelming in this case. If the CDC/FDA fails to act to protect these young people – let the word go forth – this profession has lost its way, it is corrupt to the core – and is now being run only in the interests of the corporations and not the patients.
I am not “in the know” – I do not have any access to any deliberations or information that the public itself does not know.
But I have to say – I could not agree with this gentleman more. We are hearing a lot today that this age group is going to be the new reservoir of the variants and unless vaccinated will be the downfall of us all – all I can say is EVIDENCE PLEASE –
Thanks IM Doc.
Jeebus! thank you, IMDoc.
I don’t know anything about medical ethics, but are the rules different during a pandemic? Should they be? As uncomfortable as the rushed (and rigged–not testing, but relying only on self-reported symptoms of illness to derive efficacy numbers) rollout has been, can one really say we should have waited for full/robust results?
Would we be better off today if no one had yet been vaccinated? I know the conversation here is about 12 to 17, but it is the same conversation regardless of the group in question. Here an article about a possible age 13 death, and the contervailing numbers of under age 19 cases and deaths, in Michigan.
141,865 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in youth 19 years and younger since the start of the pandemic, and at least 16 residents in that age range have died from their illness.
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/06/michigan-teens-death-days-after-covid-19-vaccination-being-investigated.html
When I read reports in the media the past few days about this issue – and on comments on social media – there is quite a bit of conflating of data. We compare the vaccine side effects in this age group vs the incidence of COVID and COVID deaths NOT JUST in that age group but the entire population. That is just one example.
The further confounding issue is in this age group – basically teenagers – the case numbers are likely very very high – indeed – I would not be surprised if upwards of 2/3 of them are “case numbers” and not deaths or hospitalizations – because they so vanishingly rarely ever get sick with COVID and certainly not ending up dying. But yet have been positive and therefore a case number. Making vaccination even more questionable. I would say your 141 thousand case number is too small by orders of magnitude.
I know this because all year – I have had family clusters and school clusters pre and post vaccine – and almost invariably the teenagers and kids were postiive and completely asymptomatic. It is very likely that the vast majority of them were positive and never came to attention. They just simply do not get sick or just minimally so.
With regard to the death counts. My state has less than 10 teens dying of COVID for the entire past year. When the state medical examiner actually did a deep dive on these cases – only 2 were ever determined to actually have died FROM COVID – all the others were suicides, traumas, etc that died WITH COVID. The 2 who actually did die were both kids with severe issues – across the country cystic fibrosis, sickle cell, and other immunocompetence disorders have been the mainstay of this group. In general, under age 20 just do not die or get hospitalized with this problem – it is very very very unusual – and they almost universally have some kind of severe co-morbidity.
The incidence of admission and morbidity with these vaccines with relation to this myocarditis is actually higher than the COVID issues. Anyone who tries to “statistics” their way out of that fact is LYING to you. The CDC readily admits that their myocarditis numbers are very likely way undercounted. And still their numbers are indicating a rise in myocarditis from baseline between 25-200 times higher in this age group. In many people with any kind of myocarditis – they may never know about it because their cardiac reserve is so excellent at their younger age. As these people age and lose that reserve, we may be looking at this problem to be with us for some time.
In general – the rules and tenets of medical ethics are universal and not dependent on the times. There are very specific tenets that do take into account community and population issues vs individual issues like we deal with in pandemics. I could not even begin to go into it here – but the numbers are simply not there for these kids to be taking the risk for the benefit of society – they just simply are not. The risk/benefit to them and the benefit to society just do not match up. If this was a much more deadly disease – or other issues that were different – that may change the calculus.
One thing that would change the calculus that is being trumpeted to the heavens today as I have pointed out – is if there was evidence that leaving them unvaccinated would cause them to be a reservoir. The fact that these vaccines appear to be NON STERILIZING ( not stopping transmission) in the real world makes that point completely mute. But it is getting real mileage out there today.
That is why I asked for EVIDENCE PLEASE of that assertion.
I hate to say this – but say it I must. I have sat and watched the Pharma industry lie, manipulate, pretty up and just make up statistical numbers for 30 years of my life. In every conceivable way. I have sat through hours of journal clubs and gatherings to discuss this with colleagues. Medical statistics and epidemiology – are very very difficult to learn and apply (lots of confounding) – but because of the presence of certain statistical methods are very easy for marketing firms to really manipulate. THEY ARE DOING THIS NOW IN SPADES. This time, it is not just for an audience of doctors – it is for the whole country. Certainly, people in the media know this – and know exactly what Pharma is doing – but the marketing and manipulation just keeps flowing out to the public.
I have just about given up.
I certainly hope you don’t give up, practicing or posting. Your posts are illuminating.
It is hard for me as layman to be of two minds when it comes to vaccination(good for older, worse for younger), but I will be keeping my eyes on the different information sources at my disposal and try to come to a measured decision when my own children are vaccine eligible.
Yes, I’d also like to say how much I appreciate you sharing your insights, experience, and wisdom with us, IM Doc. Like a number of others here, probably, I have a child in this age group (12-17), and have been trying to understand the pros/cons of vaccination. In this era of reading between the lines of “official” discourse, your insights on the unfolding situation have really helped for understanding the issues and coming to a more informed decision.
Regarding the FROM COVID / WITH COVID distinction…
I’m really unhappy to hear that.
It’s a huge talking point for the more conspiracy minded and I always rolled my eyes when I heard that argument.
Hopefully it varies by jurisdiction and the numbers aren’t bogus everywhere. In Ontario where I am the deaths are SUPPOSED to be counted after taking into consideration cause of death…
Thanks for everything you do.
I agree that the teens are not at risk of Covid mortality and not much re morbidity.
However, the big regularly surveys of 100,000 people by Imperial College found that elementary school kids were 2x as likely as adults to bring Covid into a household as adults, and older children, 7x as likely. So those child/adolescent asymptomatic cases are still major transmission vectors.
The problem is no one is willing to advocate for strict use of NPIs in homes. Here, I wear a mask except when eating or drinking, air out the house whenever possible, use my trusty povidone iodine gargle/nose spray 2x a day, wear a KN95 when I go out, and don’t socialize.
The officialdom isn’t willing to pump for adequate alternatives to vaccines because they are hard or involve meds that are being trashed.
Judging by that Alzheimer’s drug approval the other week and the discussion of upcoming booster shots at the end of today’s meeting, lobbyists have been working overtime to make sure the ‘relaxed’ standards due to pandemic are turned into a precedent for ‘relaxed’ standards indefinitely into the future, pandemic related or otherwise.
Hello IM Doc – Is this the same issue as happens with rheumatic fever patients? My granfather suffered from this at an early age and had always made it known that he would be lucky to live past 60. He died at 61.
Yes, exactly.
What we are talking about with relation to these COVID vaccines is a bit different – but along the same lines. A better analog to this vaccine problem would be post-viral myocarditis. However, there is much that we do not know about this whole situation. There is some debate about what is even causing it and why it seems to get much more common the younger the patient is.
Rheumatic fever – something which we rarely see anymore after the advent of antibiotics – is a reaction to certain strep. Both the actual organism and the immune system play a role.
The kidneys and other organs can also be heavily involved. The patients often had an infection in youth – which damaged their heart and would later have big problems. In the case of rheumatic fever – yes there is some myocarditis – but this is mainly a problem with the heart valves. The pericardium could also be involved.
Took care of many of these people as they got older. Lots of valve replacements, lots of rhythm problems, and lots of heart failure. They had mostly all died before the age of 65,
Thankfully, we do not see it in the Western world very often at all now.
Thank you for all the informative answers and just plain “view from the ground” perspective. It’s nice to have a resident MD on board here.
Rheumatic fever is no joke in kids. My wife’s first husband died in his forties. He and his siblings had rheumatic fever when they were kids and as they reached their forties, they started dying off one after the other. His death certificate listed congestive cardiac failure, acute renal failure & aortic incompetence as causes and his systems were just shutting down.
I sometimes think that for young kids, unless they have other serious pre-conditions, that it would be worth having covid parties to let them get through it naturally with what appears to be far less risk of reactions than to these shots. Just like the old measles parties. What an age we live in when such a question has to be asked.
We are the Phase 3 trial …
Interesting that they forced Johnson and Johnson to “pause” for two weeks for 6 cases of blood clots. But nothing to see here….move along.
…and Australia is set to abandon Astra Zenica:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-23/gov-projects-little-need-for-astrazeneca-after-october-covid19/100239442
Leaving only the Pfizer and Moderna to be the only available vaccines – and both of them mRNA based. Wonderful.
In the US in the next few months, we might see a push to get J&J people re-vaccinated with at least one mRNA shot. It feels like there is some pre-positioning currently going on along these lines, some preliminary previewing of the future “expert consensus.”
https://twitter.com/V2019N/status/1407804930082017283
https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1407334172042022912
Here in Canada my immune system is being used as a carnival ride — AZ first dose, Moderna second.
Wondering what the boosters will be?
Relative to discussion further down in the comments, Michael Burry is tweeting about this issue today.
Interesting comments from a modern day Cassandra.
If part of CDC’s secret mission is to create more slow-rolling death in the future while making it look like an accident, as part of the Global Overclass agenda to exterminate 7 or so billion people over the next hundred years, then CDC is doing its job very well.
We just need to know what CDC’s real (secret) job (really) is.
And now for something completely different: a retired New Brunswick carpenter builds himself a pirate ship.
Avast ye landlubbers
I’m not sure what a lubber is. Come to think of it, I don’t know what avast means either
But I think it does need a parrot…
and I watched the video and the flag isn’t a skull and crossbones. Its orange and yellow. your not gonna git any booty with an orange and yellow flag…
Wellie, it is Canada after all!
“We are Ye Polite Pyrates! Give us all of your shrubberies! Or be prepared to arbitrate!”
Me, I would have been prepared for some “The Red & the Black” action.
Some old fashioned “Hard Rock.”
BOC prepares to board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeOMHRkz14U
Avast means stop what you are doing.
Lubber= a clumsy person, one who might fall into the shrubberies
Look like that he wants to be part of the new economy – but on the right side, aarrghhhh!
El País reports computer programmer John McAfee was found dead after committing suicide in a Barcelona jail while awaiting extradition to the US.
Hmm…I bet it won’t take long for ‘alternative’ explanations for his death to begin making the rounds.
Count me “skeptical”. etc. Maybe money problems, or maybe not.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/23/john-mcafee-dies-by-suicide-inside-prison-in-barcelona/
And there is this tweet from Nov. 30, 2019…
He wrote:
“Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: “We’re coming for you McAfee! We’re going to kill yourself”. I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn’t. I was whackd. Check my right arm.”
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1200864283766251521
Well, the man was a real ‘threat’ to the Deep State’s anti-encryption programs.
And, a Barcelona jail???
Spain grabed him at the airport and was going send back to Amerika to stand trial for tax envasion. Strange person but as pointed out a threat to deep state.
Was he?
I’ve seen nothing to indicate he kept up with the tech in this area. While he may have been an expert decades ago, that means little today.
At today’s meeting the tip of the iceberg looked like this:
The CDC COVID-19 Vaccine Task Force tracked a group of 18-24 year old males for 7 days after they received their second mRNA vaccine shot. They expected to see 1-8 myocarditis/pericarditis cases*; however they observed 219 myocarditis cases — I believe that’s about a 27 times higher case count than expected.
See slides 25-28 of this CDC presentation to see more comparisons between the number of myocarditis cases you would expect to see in various groups and the number of cases that are being observed.
*Based on Gubernot et al. U.S. Population-Based background incidence rates of medical conditions for use in safety assessment of COVID-19 vaccines.
naturally they gave it the green light
Edward Snowden is posting on Substack:
https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/lifting-the-mask
First real post is on censorship:
https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/on-censorship-pt-1
What have we here? Wuhan military games the original superspreader?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/23/congress-wuhan-military-games-2019-covid
That’s the one where the Chinese suggested that the virus may have been introduced into Wuhan – by members of the US team.
Why is a BBC correspondent and camera crew on board and making reports from a Royal Navy Destroyer that’s sailing very close to Crimea?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57583363
Just in case “something happens.”
Just as military units have historians to sing their deeds like the bards and skalds of old, so too do ‘Official’ Adventurers have their own bards, also known as “media stenographers.”
Can you imagine what would happen if a Russian warship sailed 12 miles off Naval Station San Diego and the Captain was saying that he was only seeking safe passage through an internationally recognised shipping lane? Congress would be baying for blood.
Locked and loaded for their innocent passage. Ukrainian waters after all, can’t rearrange boarders as has been done in the Balkans, Kosovo for example, Sudan, the Soviet breakup, etc.
If you look at an image of that BBC reporter, you will note that he is wearing anti-flash gear-
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-57580962
That is the gear they issue sailors so that in case of fires, it protects the sailor’s faces and hands from bad burns. The fact that this reporter was given them showed that they knew what they were having that destroyer do was extremely risky – but did it anyway.
professional dog groomer explains secrets of giving rover a long healthy life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJvQKultHQ
Relating to the Guardian story “the evolution of rap, one verse at a time” from the 6/21 Water Cooler, there is now a veritable plethora of rap acts outside the mainstream which are talented and viable. There are so many entertaining artists with a small youtube channeI if one is willing to do a little digging. An artist can release songs and videos, and it’s become commonplace to supplement one’s social media with reaction videos, lectures & talks, even endorsements if one garners enough numbers.
Pete & Bas is a UK rap duo that might pique the interest of the NC crowd. They’re a couple of OLD MEN in their 70’s who started doing drill-style UK rap about three years ago and have quickly evolved into one of the scene’s most talented rap groups. They have over a dozen good songs. They’re lingo includes both modern slang and old UK/cockney slang. Here they are on the Youtube show ‘Plugged in with Fumez,’ where rap groups are invited into Fumez the Engineer’s studio to record a song and video right there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlcGxjtcr3s
These old men used their appearance on Plugged in with Fumez to declare themselves full drill artists and not just a novelty act. Pete opens with a standard UK drill verse. Bas follows with a standard New York drill verse. Then Pete does and advanced UK drill verse. Bas then does a VERY advanced New York drill verse. Then they do a wicked back and forth with ridiculous wordplay and punchlines. They end by disrespecting a few UK artists who refused to collaborate or acknowledge Pete and Bas as a genuine rap group. It is, frankly, an incredible performance.
Fumez also interviewed Pete and Bas if anyone is interested in hearing them describe how they got into modern UK drill rap and what it’s like being 70 in a scene of younguns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvCs2r7p4y0
A few slang definitions for the yanks who don’t follow UK drill:
Mash- a gun, or mashed potatoes
Pinkies- 50-pound notes
Leaky- unsatisfactory, lame
Boat- face
Nank- knife
Sovereign- A ring made with a gold coin face, popular with UK mobsters from back in the day
Shooter- gun
Spoons- short for Weatherspoons, a greasy food pub chain
Bunda- Brazilian term for derriere
Wavy- awesome
Tit-for-tat- cockney term for a hat (usually shortened to tit-for)
Dotty- shotgun
Band- a thousand Pounds held together with a rubber band
Tiocfaidh ár lá- motto of IRA republicanism, means ‘our day will come’
this is amazing. I can’t stop laughing. thank you!
In light of Michael Burry’s tweet storm, I’d like to know from the Water Cooler Crew how they see the American economy playing out over the next 12-18-36 months.
A relative is a banking exec. A couple months ago they told me to be patient and give the housing market about another year and then it’s going to crater in epic fashion, same with stock market, but they’ll be a few months apart. I can’t remember which one they said would go first, though, sorry. This person does a lot of modeling, so I tend to give what they say some weight. They said it’ll be worse than 2008. This person isn’t prone to exaggeration or excitement. Take it how you like.
I thought(?) Burry deleted his Twitter account. A link to the tweet storm would be nice.
Are you referring to this? I hate linking to anything MSN related, but it was the best link that came up.
Talk about synchronicity — now Burry is also tweeting about vaccine-related heart inflammation in young adults:
https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1407856604481867779
Looks like he may(?) have deleted all of his tweets about the state of the economy, tho.
I don’t know what will happen, but a market crash will vindicate my decision to keep my precious retirement savings in safer, low yield instruments. I will be absolutely aglow with schadenfreude.
This was a response to WaltD.
As I peruse the news today, I find myself wondering if Myanmar’s anti-coup resistance will join forces with the Rohingya.
every now and then the people win one
Perhaps the most notable item in the mayor’s budget is the $6.8 million for a pilot program that aims to direct 911 calls related to mental health distress, traffic incidents, and parking complaints to specialized workers instead of law enforcement.
https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/519862/what-happened-to-defunding-the-police/
https://chrislaing.net/blog/the-memo/
Sorry I am to cynical to buy this
Subway sandwiches does it’s part to preserve marine diversity:
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEJqGeYTEmnlncN_EMh4Yps8qGQgEKhAIACoHCAowsIv_CjCag_gCMN-15QU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107717
“ Effect of Vaccination on Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in England”
From the NWS seattle region forecast discussion…
” A strong upper ridge will build through
the end of the week with the high center right over southwest
British Columbia–naturally the air mass will warm through Saturday
and our spell of hot weather will begin. Daily high temp records
will be easily exceeded and all time highs for the month of June
will also be set as the warmest locations rise to near 100 degrees
Saturday afternoon. It is unusual to have a summer high develop so
close to our area rather than gradually build up from the four
corners and yet temps aloft will warm to readings as warm as we
ever see–even in mid summer. The 850mb temp is a good reference
for meteorologists and that warms from around 14c through Thursday to
around 25c late Saturday afternoon (and around 30c down around
Medford)”
https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=SEW&issuedby=SEW&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1
No mention of Buffet bailing ship at gates?
What better way to honor the legacy of George Floyd than by – wait for it – buying anti-racist, inclusive, George Floyd-inspired knickers from High Street’s Marks and Spencers. No, not The Onion-
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/527368-george-floyd-inspired-inclusive-lingerie/
Perhaps a complementary knee-pad can be thrown in with each set of women’s underwear. So that it will be easier to take a knee with.
Societal collapse watch: Today, I had the pleasure of accidentally driving to Google’s headquarters. This is because the adjacent road only has onramps going northbound and not southbound, so I had to drive through Googleville in order to get to a southbound onramp.
One moment I’m driving down a modestly kept business park, then I take a turn and suddenly there’s 10, 20, 30, almost 40 RVs all lined up on the road. All homeless people right between the Google buildings. We see it all the time in urban zones, but for a supposedly gentrified suburban zone this is something new. Even East Palo Alto (Facebook HQ) only allows the RVs on a back road (where a salvage lot and substation are).
Horrifyingly, by the looks of it some where actual Google employees. Not just contractors like custodians but actual employees of the company. Lots of cheap uber rides because that’s where they all get their side money. Very, very worrying!!
I recommend a visit if you happen to be in the area. It’s up there with the tents and street defecation in front of the Transamerica and BoA buildings.
Workers Leaving the Googleplex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0RTgOuoi2k